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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: denfireguy] #1479187
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When restoring my car I bought numerous batches of FC7 mixed from various paint manufacturers, & laid out test panels of each. All were a different shade.
As others have stated DuPont is more on the silver side, PPG is more violet.
I found PPG to be a dead-nuts match. Which makes sense because these cars were originally painted in Ditzler, which is now known as PPG.

I also found FJ5 Sublime is also more vibrant in PPG vs DuPont.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: 70plymA34] #1479188
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i dont know if this will help but here is a real time capsule. This was my dads 70 chall he purchased while overseas in vietnam thru the chrysler armed forces rep. The picture was taken in 70-73 range with original paint on it. this photo was taken with one of the better films available then. Kodachrome. my dad was a very good photographer and it looks like it was taken yesterday. LOL..




looks exactly like mine!..seems most are too purple.while it is a good look its NOT RIGHT!..thanks your dad made my day!

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479189
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This paint is eleven years old and is code Fc7. Paint is PPG Deltron 2000 DBC

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: rck850] #1479190
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This paint is eleven years old and is code Fc7. I know the brand is DuPont but as far as paint line it is I'll have to see if I can find a can.




looks real close to correct to me... not too dark like most..a little silvery is what it is.. i matched mine to trunk floor paint..

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479191
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Obviously computer screens, cameras, etc. all conspire to make it very difficult to compare, but yours looks way too light compared to the survivors I've seen.

...in particular, Steven Juliano's '71 Hemi Charger R/T with 10,000 miles on it.


Dave

on edit; I went back and looked at some pics of the aforementioned survivor and the color appears different in some of the pics vs. others under the same light on the same day so who knows. While yours appears to light to me, it is outside on a bright day so.... the only real comparison would be to take it and park it beside an original paint survivor (or find a wheel or something with good quality original paint). If you've got a sample of the original paint that is unfaded from your car, then that's about as good as you can get.

I managed to find some perfect paint under the sealer in my windshield channel for my paint match.

I will say this though; there were 6-8 FC7 cars at the show last weekend and I had commented to Sheldon that they ALL looked different.

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: DPelletier] #1479192
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I have 2 survivor 70's and a 71. The 2 70's are very close but not exact. Most 71's I have seen have been different than the 70 FC7.

The only way is to match the color on your car is with a good sample from an unmolested area.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479193
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Dan, from your pics, it looks pretty good. Original cars I have seen, it is a lot lighter than most people paint them today.

Rick.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: MrNormsTA] #1479194
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Huge correction my duster above was painted with PPG Deltron 2000 DBC.
Not the DuPont I thought originally.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: rck850] #1479195
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Original paint on my 71 R/T Challenger.

The original paint does appear much lighter in the direct sun with a tint of silver.

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: KillerBee] #1479196
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Here is my 70 Sport Satellite . . .paint is PPG Detron(??) 2000.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: a12rag] #1479197
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I agree with Dave above...lighting makes a huge difference. These are from a 1970 Challenger R/T and were removed and stored in a dry basement... in 1970. Paint is factory original. Other pics I have are from my camera with no flash on just seconds later and these rims look like a deep, rich Plum Crazy hue. If I can reduce their size later, I'll post more pics showing the difference. Earlier in there was talk about this paint being mixed in large batches so there may be some slight differences. I tend to agree with this.

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: EL5 71] #1479198
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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: EL5 71] #1479199
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Another thing worth mentioning... these rims have no evidence of factory primer on them. Just the black enamel and Plum Crazy sprayed over the top on the rim's front sides. So maybe Plum Crazy over grey, red oxide or in this case black makes a world of difference also.

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: EL5 71] #1479200
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Same rims on mounted to the front of Hemi Road Runner. No flash, no sunlight and they look very deep colored.

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: EL5 71] #1479201
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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: DPelletier] #1479202
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And My is that they were several different plums from the factory. my 70 dart 340 and a friends 70 dart were both original paint and both were no where near the same color .

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: mopar_man] #1479203
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I wasnt around then but have seen alot inpersonn, in mags, on the internet......take into account seeing through different screen settings, film, light, even peoples eyes.....and add to that the painting equipment and the human factor of people doing it...

man it makes my head spin thinking of all the factors it would take to replicate......and like you said two new plum crazy darts looked different to you....

what do they go with on something like this at say the Carlisle gold certified cars and such?


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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: mopar_man] #1479204
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They were probably supposed to be the same but when painted at different factories, different times, different batch of paint etc. there are various shades of the same color. That is why there are alternate formulas for most paints. Either pick one you like or find a good original sample spot and have it matched by a good paint guy.

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