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Has anyone thought about running at a different track where they don't have or enforce all the BS rules?*?I can put a few more gallons of fuel in the truck and "Keep On Trucking" right passed tracks like that on my way to another! If Racers won't race at those kind of tracks,they have only 2 choices back of some of the BS rules or close the track either one works for me. "THINK ABOUT IT"

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I do have a senario question though.
Sportsman class, 12.0 cut off. What if, in eliminations, i dial my 12.60 opponent dials 12.01
I break out going 12.55 -.05, but opponent breaks out with an 11.98 -.03 ? I break out greater, but opponent breaks out of the class cut off.
Who advances? Does breaking class cut off cause an instant DQ in eliminations?
Just asking.

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Great question,Chris! I would think you would get the win.... Unless your opponet was one of the track managers "favorites"

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I do have a senario question though.
Sportsman class, 12.0 cut off. What if, in eliminations, i dial my 12.60 opponent dials 12.01
I break out going 12.55 -.05, but opponent breaks out with an 11.98 -.03 ? I break out greater, but opponent breaks out of the class cut off.
Who advances? Does breaking class cut off cause an instant DQ in eliminations?
Just asking.

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RT 66 used to throw you out if you broke out of class, but they don't anymore. Now it's only if you cross one of the safety equipment lines without said safety equipment on. (i.e. 9.99 on a 10.0 dial w/o jackets/pants/etc.)

I still think Sportsman should be for DOT street tires and mufflers only. Way too many Pro cars have parked in Sportsman to duck hunt.

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Cab you are better than that. Nothing has changed in the rule books with respect to a given ET and MPH. If you exceed one, the other, or both; you have to accept the fact that you are too fast for "their defined rules and circumstances".

Once you can't accept the rules, it is time to move on to where the rules are different, or get a new hobby. I have moved on to enjoying the car more with less and still have the necessary combinations of parts to get me in trouble with the rules in sanctioned racing. There is always No-ET racing if you can find it.

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I had not seen or heard of the 135 MPH rule before being told about it on Saturday My fault because it has been at the very front of the rule book in the ET rules and regulations for a long time evidentily That is the only place it is mentioned or listed in the NHRA rule book It(that limitation) is not in the general section or in any other location that I can find so the Stock and S/S/ racers can run in excess of 135 MPH with none of the safety equiptment that the ET racer is required to have once we go above 135.00 MPH
I traded my Duster off for this car due to E bodys selling easier than the A bodys do, my fault Hopefully one of the several guys that express interest in this car at that race will buy it so I can move on to other endeavors

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I went from running low 9s with a full fire suit in my Dart last year to running Mid 11s in a T shirt this year.

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The index racing I do not care for. Ran it once, and to say it didn't work out, is an understatement. Maybe if I had a car more suited to that, but I do not like slowing it down.

As for avoiding the 9.99 thing, I completely agree. I am working on getting our car legal for 9.99 or quicker, which I think all I need now is a -5 jacket and my license, but I plan on slowing it down for next season. Got into enough trouble without some of the gear, and I just can't see wearing a warmer jacket and such just to go a few tenths quicker...There are a number of rules for that ET that really do add up in cost...

We had a bad accident at our track a few weeks ago, and since then, they have annouced full enforcement of all the rules will be in place for the next race. We were lucky and just had $1k worth of upgrades and are almost totally legal. I think the solid throttle cable and gas pedal toe hook are the only two items left for us which I was not aware of...And apherently is what went wrong during the accident that got the driver impailed with a fence post at our track.

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Hey,Billy!! I am feeling pretty good today...Here is another crap rule from my home track...For the big money,the winner of Pro has a run off with the winner of Super Pro...I have seen a Pro car win once in a while but not too often...Now I know how fast your car is. So...You pull that box and run 1/8th mile against my beater and let's see how ya do!! Just funnin' ya,buddy!!

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Now you are talking my kind of racing! I wish the only box allowed was the oil,water temp and tach.and you either run a 3 or 4 speed your choice! Not that its not now but put the driver in control of everything in the car and "Run what Ya Brung".

I like everybody else I am sick of having to jump through hoops to race.And I won't any more,and they have lighten up on the Rules other than needed safety rules,not just because of me but other racers as well won't race at their tracks.Get all the Racers together and go to the Track owner or who ever runs it and be frank with them,we have only one Track down here that sticks to his NHRA rules.He has 2-3 Big NHRA races a year and a Saturday night Bracket Race that does good to draw 20 cars total.

PS I understand what you are saying about the Pro vs Super Pro racer but don't mind it quite as bad being I am a S/P racer! Down here we mostly have only 2 class Box & No Box,and they each have their own race.For some reason the Door-Cars want to run Door-Cars for the 1st 4 rounds then against the dragsters but I don't mind that.

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It would be fun...I know you piperack pilots have a little tougher time judging the 1/8th....I probably would take a whoopin but after I race someone...win or loose,I always make an effort to look them up and shake their hand and tell them good race!! Maybe next time!!

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I try to be a good Sport as well! Had a Customer come up while ago before I finished but if the S/P & Pro each have their own race,I would ask for a small cash purse for each class,then another small purse for the winner between the Pro & S/P class winners.If enough racers asked for it,there's a good chance the track would go for it.Good Luck

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my car went 6.40 and then showed 60/330 times that were even quicker .

As soon as the track says something, I will back it down. We already have the COMPLETE B.S 2 year belt rule and now the new INSANE locking dipstick deal...

Im not paying $$$$$$ just to go 6.39.

I used to support the NHRA ,but now that Ive gotten into racing a faster car over the years....I am starting to despise them due to the fact they are raping the small racers with silly un necessary rules so they can make kickback money.

new nhra rule for 2014 = SFI helmet revision 32.1 = you must have an sfi approved , brand new helmet EVERY year .

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And let's not forget header collector retention cables...
I did have one fall off last year but now have bolt together tabs on each and every tube but its still not gonna be legal.
If you weld them on you'll not need the cables.
They're available from Lokar a new NHRA sponsor...

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I went from running low 9s with a full fire suit in my Dart last year to running Mid 11s in a T shirt this year.

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The index racing I do not care for. Ran it once, and to say it didn't work out, is an understatement. Maybe if I had a car more suited to that, but I do not like slowing it down.

As for avoiding the 9.99 thing, I completely agree. I am working on getting our car legal for 9.99 or quicker, which I think all I need now is a -5 jacket and my license, but I plan on slowing it down for next season. Got into enough trouble without some of the gear, and I just can't see wearing a warmer jacket and such just to go a few tenths quicker...There are a number of rules for that ET that really do add up in cost...

We had a bad accident at our track a few weeks ago, and since then, they have annouced full enforcement of all the rules will be in place for the next race. We were lucky and just had $1k worth of upgrades and are almost totally legal. I think the solid throttle cable and gas pedal toe hook are the only two items left for us which I was not aware of...And apherently is what went wrong during the accident that got the driver impailed with a fence post at our track.

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What track and who wrecked??

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