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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: Dave_S]
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07/30/13 10:38 PM
07/30/13 10:38 PM
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Toronto
mshred
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I financed the whole project with the sale of my old engine and trans, so I had to keep it simple, ie: no dual radiators. I thought of meth injection, but for simplicity you cant beat an intercooler.....no moving parts! The motor plate is from www.aeicnc.com. It allows you to use a BBC water pump, which is about 1/3 the price of a Hemi one.
I have Eagle heads that I ported myself with a .020 over 5.7
As for performance goals....after all this work if its not faster than the 512....my wife will prob. kill me!!!
Looks good Dave! I remember your dart back when you won the armdrop with it...Badass car! What kinda parts you have in the rotating assembly? What compression?
This is exactly what my dad wants to do with his car- 5.7 hemi, turbo (either single or twin) with a megasquirt to control it
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: onig]
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07/31/13 11:53 AM
07/31/13 11:53 AM
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Oakland, MI
dizuster
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You don't need a new hemi to go mid 10's in a turbo a-body. My 3700 lb b-body has gone 10.48@131 so far with a cast crank, stock rod (w/bolts), iron headed 360. S475 @15psi. The problem with the new hemi stuff is the efi or carb'd intakes/coil pack igniton are a small fortune. I am going to do one for my next project, but I'm shooting for mid 8's...not mid 10's.
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: dizuster]
#1471079
07/31/13 01:27 PM
07/31/13 01:27 PM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
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You don't need a new hemi to go mid 10's in a turbo a-body.
My 3700 lb b-body has gone [Email]10.48@131[/Email] so far with a cast crank, stock rod (w/bolts), iron headed 360. S475 @15psi.
The problem with the new hemi stuff is the efi or carb'd intakes/coil pack igniton are a small fortune.
I am going to do one for my next project, but I'm shooting for mid 8's...not mid 10's.
Yeah, the coil packs are a downer, along with the distributerless ignition, but it would be cool and different. The other downer is the $2800 stroker kit price plus all the additional costs for an oil pan and other stuff not even thought of yet. Not cheap. My 408 is not built for boost and would need a few things to run boost. Cam, pistons, carb, and headers, so I am on a limb...By the way, I love the Savoy. Hope you put a hemi in that...We need to talk a little if I go this rout about set-up.
We have a car that is basically legal to go 9's now and we are running 10.0....If we went well into the 9's with one of these, I would not have an issue with it. Where would I start with rear gear and either a 32" tall tire or the 33" tall tires we run now?
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: dizuster]
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08/01/13 08:28 PM
08/01/13 08:28 PM
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Burlington, Ontario Canada
Dave_S
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K1 rods, Wiseco pistons. 10:1 compression. Block filled with Hardblock. 6.1 cam. 6.1 crank. Bought the rods,pistons and rings from Campbell Enterprises. JW ultrabell and a "drag racing two speed" (powerglide)
Dave Stillie
'73 Swinger
5.7 Hemi, 88mm turbo, powerglide, cal-tracs & 8 3/4
Mega-Squirt EFI
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: Dave_S]
#1471082
08/12/13 08:06 PM
08/12/13 08:06 PM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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I got a quote from Mike Muscle Motors for a stroked 6.1 long block, no heads or engine plate, but complete with oil pan and cam, block, crank, pistons, all assembled for $7500..I thought that was a really good price considering the stroker kits are now $2950....Man I am torn between this and the 512 low deck my engine builder and I have been talking about.
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: Dave_S]
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09/02/13 08:36 AM
09/02/13 08:36 AM
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Canada
onig
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Any updates yet.
I am wanting to do the same thing to my 69 Dart.
onig
69 Dart
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: mcat4321]
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10/27/13 07:39 PM
10/27/13 07:39 PM
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Nebraska
72Swinger
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I'm doing a 6.1 420" build. Got some Manley pistons 4.065x4.05 on closeout. Molnar will be my crank and rods. Right now I'm getting another head since mine had 2 left side heads. Then ill get headers and build mounts. Then ill finish building engine and get a Megasquirt setup. Not interested in not being able to tune it myself with an OEM ecu. Hopefully it scoots gonna use a 600 247/255 cam.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: gen3 hemi
[Re: mcat4321]
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10/28/13 09:07 AM
10/28/13 09:07 AM
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Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...
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and boost, so the perfect flowing head is not all that important.
thanks fellows 
Think of it as a normally aspirated motor in really great air, because that is all it really is. The heads will build boost (but not the cylinder!) if they are a cork, and the power level will be low. The same goes for the rest of the motor. There are things that are different, but they start coming into pay gradually, as boost rises. I won't go into detail because there are much smarter guys out there that can help with the details, once you pick a fuel and max boost level you are willing to run.
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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