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Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
#1466383
07/11/13 09:03 AM
07/11/13 09:03 AM
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'Cause you know, THAT title's not gonna make anyone cringe...
Okay, my daily driver (68 Caddy) finally sucked its last rust flake into the steel line. The tank is NOT stock, has NO sending unit or even a hole for one, just a line out. Where you even FIND a tank like this i dont know. I didn't build it. Regardless, not important, this gas tank cannot be opened, and it cannot be fixed. Its FULL ov rust. I was just hoping it would last the summer... Guess not.
I need to drive this car tomorrow.
The car's got a good working electric pump, in between the tank and the steel line along the frame. Typical set-up. Pump works good. When the car stalls, there is no fuel getting to the rear filter. Only a SEVERE amount ov banging on the tank/line/filter will dislodge it and get it going again.
I'm going to run a 3/8" fuel line from the filter (which is good) to a tank (jerry can) in the interior (station wagon), through a drilled hole in the floor. Not unlike an interior fuel cell set-up. The fuel will have to run about 18" uphill to the tall gas can. Then about 12" back down to the bottom inside the jug. The jug will be right against the rear door, and tied securely obviously.
Aside from the usual 'this is hokey as hell, dont do it' comments, any reason why this wont work? Would it work in a Mad Max world?
This is my only working car now, and i need to get to work. I HAVE NO MONEY. I cant even come close to affording a tank, or a fuel cell right now. A friend has offered me a fuel cell, but it's 8 gallons. In this rig that would get me nowhere. I might still pick it up.
On the plus side... i now have a reason to replace that hokey tank, and get either a custom tank or cell, with a working fuel gauge. I have never had one in this vehicle, and at 11mpg this rig NEEDS one.
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: Pale_Roader]
#1466384
07/11/13 09:46 AM
07/11/13 09:46 AM
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Florida
scratchnfotraction
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yes, it will work. I dont like the idea of the can inside the car. I ran a truck a few months with a plastic 5 gallon gas can in the fender whell area just behind the pass side headlight/core support. worked great and had people scratching their head when I opend the hood and pumped gas in the can.  I have straped a gas can on a roof of a mud truck to gravity feed the carb when the feul pump craped out one time. worked while it was running, but would flood the carb on shut down pushing past the needle/seat in the carb...i think. but it drove us 10 miles out of the sticks. the little up hill then a longer sharp drop in you can pick-up hose will cause it to syphine feed the pump so no problems there once it is primed. you do have a flame suite to wear with the can straped to the inside of (ov) rear door..right? if you think hot oil under pressure from a broken plastic oil guage tube is hot while driving.. fire is worse.  OH! it would be called hickabilly not hokey IMHO.
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: dogdays]
#1466390
07/12/13 06:41 AM
07/12/13 06:41 AM
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Splice a Schrader valve into the fuel line between your pump and the tank. Use compressed air to blow the rust flakes away from the in-tank strainer. My friend drove a Javelin like this for years.
I dont have compressed air. Besides, it would just jam again. I'm done 'attending' to it every single time i drive it. A fix is needed, even a hokey fix.
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My '64Dog's tank was rusty, I removed it and got the rust to come out the filler hole by sloshing about a gallon of gasoline around and then pouring it into a 5 gallon bucket, over and over. Got about a coffee can full of flakes. The tank worked for several years after before finally holing through.
R.
Yup, sounds good, but under it today, its going to be a major undertaking just removing that tank, and its not going to come quietly. 45 years ov rust will see to that. In fact, i was pretty shocked to see just how much cancer this car has... if it wasn't literally built like a WW2-era battleship, it'd be toast by now. Regardless, once that tank is out, its not going back in.
Further, upon close inspection, it actually DOES look like the original tank. Weird. Never heard ov a gas tank without a sender before, or a car without a working fuel gauge...???
Anyways, the project stalled today when i figured out an even better way to do it (NO hack involved), and i was stumped for the want ov just 15" ov steel line. Couldn't even find a spare dipstick tube to cut up and use. Back to the parts store tomorrow...
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
#1466391
07/12/13 06:42 AM
07/12/13 06:42 AM
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I can't remember but you don't smoke right?
Sheldon
Only the tires... And the ol' Anti-Life Mobile does love a good cooker...
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: scratchnfotraction]
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07/12/13 06:45 AM
07/12/13 06:45 AM
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Do you have access to a tank for a boat ?
good idea with a boat tank and line connection.
I have a 64 chebby stepside I work on with a boat tank in the bed like that.
Nope. Nothing that useful around here. My friend suggested that too.
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some angle iron peices, a welder, a gasser spun alum tank mounted out in front of the bumber would be kool on a road warrior caddy. 
Well... though this rig is right out ov the post-apocalyptic Aussie wasteland... i still wouldn't mount a tank up front... What if i need to ram someone...???
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: wingman]
#1466396
07/12/13 01:57 PM
07/12/13 01:57 PM
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scratchnfotraction
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you do have a flame suite to wear with the can straped to the inside of (ov) rear door..right?
I'm not usually one to be the grammar/spelling police, but you know it's spelled "of" right?
For pete's sake man, it's only two letters! 
yes,I have very poor grammar and spelling ability because I am ignorant(i think thats what it is called?), but yes, I do know it is spelled OF.
the OP is the only one on the board that does that OV thing IIRC, so as grammar police point out my bad grammar, I want to make sure I did not miss spell it for him.
my caps button is slack so it looks like i dont know that i am supposed to use the upper case I also. but I have bigger isssue than grammar to worry about that sort ov thing. 
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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07/12/13 03:13 PM
07/12/13 03:13 PM
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A Banana Republic near you.
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I dont have compressed air. Besides, it would just jam again. I'm done 'attending' to it every single time i drive it. A fix is needed, even a hokey fix.
buy a boat tank , it's a fix that will work well andc you can run it like that for a while without fear of a jerryjug falling over..
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: JohnRR]
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07/12/13 06:57 PM
07/12/13 06:57 PM
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Canton, Ohio
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I dont have compressed air. Besides, it would just jam again. I'm done 'attending' to it every single time i drive it. A fix is needed, even a hokey fix.
buy a boat tank , it's a fix that will work well andc you can run it like that for a while without fear of a jerryjug falling over..
 You can pick them up jeap on craigslist I bet. Much safer then your jerry can idea.
In the Demolition derbys around here they are used alot in the cars. Those and or fuel cells.
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
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#1466400
07/12/13 07:49 PM
07/12/13 07:49 PM
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Are you just going to swap in another tank from something else from PNP?
The amount ov space under there is vast. The stock tank is at least 16 gal, and i could easily double the size and have room to spare, probably triple the size once i change the exhaust, the floor in the rear ov these things is really high.
The plan is to find a stock tank and sender from something that fits the shape (area), or better yet, have a tank built to fit perfectly. A new tank and sender, plus aftermarket fuel gauge would be just swell. Pretty sure my gauge is also hooped at the dash too.
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And to anyone bothered by ov, explain to me who the heck decided the correct way to spell that word, because the "correct" way to spell it makes no sense whatsoever. I like people who deliberately challenge stupid convention.
Sheldon
Hah! You know... i never even thought ov it that way. If you look around, probably half the people here (well anywhere) spell stuff is it sounds... which, is pretty much what bad spelling is, isn't it? Not that its intentional...
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: JohnRR]
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07/12/13 07:53 PM
07/12/13 07:53 PM
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I dont have compressed air. Besides, it would just jam again. I'm done 'attending' to it every single time i drive it. A fix is needed, even a hokey fix.
buy a boat tank , it's a fix that will work well andc you can run it like that for a while without fear of a jerryjug falling over..
I'll look around for a free one somewhere. I'm not worried about the jerry falling/moving though, there is a factory cubby/hole in the middle floor, for holding a battery or something, the 5 gal jerry fits right in there so snug it wouldn't move in a rollover. Still not what i'd call safe... but at least it wont move.
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Re: Super-hokey fuel fix... (in a pinch)
[Re: Pale_Roader]
#1466402
07/12/13 09:53 PM
07/12/13 09:53 PM
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Lincoln Nebraska
RapidRobert
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Hah! You know... i never even thought ov it that way. If you look around, probably half the people here (well anywhere) spell stuff is it sounds... which, is pretty much what bad spelling is, isn't it? Not that its intentional...
I did not have a problem with it as it is a non issue but it did remind me of how bad my grammer used to be (on here) several years ago 
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