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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444237
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Installing a PCV system will definitely help with the moisture problem. I would run one on the street for sure.


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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Crizila] #1444238
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Plenty of fresh engines I've run on the dyno seem to have condensation issues for the first 30 minutes or so of run time. They always seem to clear up after a few pulls though as does the visible blowby past the breathers as the rings seat to the cylinders. Maybe you just haven't driven it enough?

Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1444239
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Well here is a pic of the condensation on the inside of the valve cover and the "K/B Stack.
What PCV valve would be a good choice? As in what application would I buy one for?
I ran the car at the track for TNT, and hot lapped it. Got too hot on the last pass. I sure didn't expect to see this mess inside!

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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444240
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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444241
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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444242
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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444243
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Looks like 'leak down' and 'pressure test' of cooling system time to me. That's alot of moisture. You are running gas right..??..not alky.


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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: CHAPPER] #1444244
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Yes it is gas. I can pressure test the system no problem. But I have had antifreeze in it and the moisture appears clear?



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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444245
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Looks like a lot of moisture to me. Isn't that a KB block? Did you get the head gaskets from KB?


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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1444246
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No Chip, it's a World block . I am using Cometic gaskets.

Cooling System is holding 15 lbs.

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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444247
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OK, I couldn't remember. Have you drained/checked the oil to see how much water, if any, is in the pan? No bubbles in the radiator?
I hope it's just condensation, it could be, but it sure looks like a lot to me.
If it isn't putting water in the pan, I'd go drive the snot out of it and then look again.


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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1444248
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The last time I drained the pan, the oil was milky, but no water sepperated to the bottom. I am going to drain it again and see what I have now.
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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444249
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No Chip, it's a World block . I am using Cometic gaskets.

Cooling System is holding 15 lbs.




Cometic gaskets.. Is the motor HOT when you are checking??


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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: CHAPPER] #1444250
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No, right now it is dead cold.



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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444251
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I had a all aluminum hemi yrs ago, my breathers never looked like that. I did run a pcv valve though. I'd hook 1 up, chg oil & see if that helps.

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I have changed oil 3 times in less than 20 miles and three 1/8th mile test passes.
I am concerned that if it is antifreeze, my bearings will be toast.
I cannot confirm it, but I think the rad. level may be down some. No oil in radiator.
Radiator Pressure tester drops from 18 psi to 15 psi in about 1/2 hr.
Oil is cloudy and brown.
What should I test next? Is there a "test strip" for the oil to test for antifreeze?
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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444253
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Try a leak down test. We test trans fluid where i work with a glycol test kit. Works with motor oil to. Do a google search, might be able to have 1 shipped to u.

Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: rickraw] #1444254
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Thanks for the info on the test kit.
It seems to me if it was just water in the oil pan, it would have sepparated and the water would be on the bottom of the pan. Not so.
I have used a leak down to check ring seal, but not to find a coolant leak? Is this just for head gasket to cylinder leakage?



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Re: Will a PCV help condensation in Alum. Blk.? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1444255
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A leakdown test will also show any leakage in the cooling system. Do it with a hot engine. Check each clyinder on tdc. If ur low on coolant, it has to be going somewhere. If ur using antifreeze, the glycol test won't lie.

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Well,
It is antifreeze for sure.

Now to look at the bearings and see what damage is done, and try to find the leak
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