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69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 08:53 AM
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Well, this is certainly a weird one for me. We just got a 69 GTX convertible and although the fender tag is not coded for factory under coating, the under carriage of the car is under coated like the factory would have done. Where the seat mounting stud areas are there is a clear area where the 1" masking tape covering the holes were. It also appears that the undercoating was applied from the middle of the car being shot outwards to the outside of the car due to the coverage pattern. Could the factory have put undercoating on a car and not had it coded on the fender tag? The under carriage of this car is totally untouched or unrestored and we are taking many, many pics of all the inspection marks that we have come across when we are degreasing it all.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 09:48 AM
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ugh. So originally it was that light textured stuff like on the back of the tail panel of my charger. Thats going to be fun trying to keep clean. 
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 10:54 AM
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Undercoating would not show up on a fender tag. Does it have the under hood insulation?
1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 11:51 AM
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It does not have the under hood insulation however, after 40+ years, it could have deteriorated and gotten pulled down and tossed. The glove box did have a couple of the metal hood insulation clips in it though when we got the car so it is very possible that it had it originally. I can't see why the clips would have been there if it never had it on the car.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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Typically if it had factory undercoating/sound deadener it would have had the underhood insulation. Air Grabber cars excepted. Most of the cars I do here in good old NY have factory undercoat.
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1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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Well, this is certainly a weird one for me. We just got a 69 GTX convertible and although the fender tag is not coded for factory under coating....
1) Not all options were listed on the tag. The BS or window sticker is a much better indication of options. "Generally" options that require some sort of body in white modification, like holes punched in the firewall, are listed. Examples include things like A/C, radio, a tach, Air grabber. For the most part, more cosmetic or convenience items, like undercoating, floor mats, etc are generally not coded especially during that era of tag.
2) What was coded varied by plant, year and even time of year. Some years and plants list more, some list less.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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Any pics? Sounds like a cool car!
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 04:34 PM
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I took some pics of the under carriage today while at my parents. I will try and get them resized and post them in the next day or two.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 04:42 PM
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Typically if it had factory undercoating/sound deadener it would have had the underhood insulation. Air Grabber cars excepted. Most of the cars I do here in good old NY have factory undercoat.
This was an Oregon car originally. Has all of its original sheet metal, original glass, and numbers matching drive train too!
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 04:45 PM
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Well, this is certainly a weird one for me. We just got a 69 GTX convertible and although the fender tag is not coded for factory under coating....
1) Not all options were listed on the tag. The BS or window sticker is a much better indication of options. "Generally" options that require some sort of body in white modification, like holes punched in the firewall, are listed. Examples include things like A/C, radio, a tach, Air grabber. For the most part, more cosmetic or convenience items, like undercoating, floor mats, etc are generally not coded especially during that era of tag. Typically, a 67 B body tag would not list undercoating.
2) What was coded varied by plant, year and even time of year. Some years and plants list more, some list less.
What he said , can't say I have ever seen sound deadening coded on a fendertag , but I have not seen EVERY tag made 
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 05:46 PM
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I was always led to believe that a factory undercoated car would have had it on the fender tag.  Oh well, I guess you learn something new everyday!
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/16/13 09:21 PM
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Sometimes the undercoating was included in a group like A04 or A05 depending on the year, make, plant, etc.
As a stand alone J55 option on a tag...I don't know if I've seen it either. I'll have to keep checking.
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Over 2,000 thanks to you!
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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Sometimes the undercoating was included in a group like A04 or A05 depending on the year, make, plant, etc.
As a stand alone J55 option on a tag...I don't know if I've seen it either. I'll have to keep checking.
My 69 500 convertible is an A05 car, hood pad, front and rear bumper guards and undercoating
Is A05 on the tag ?
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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05/17/13 07:57 AM
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Any pics? Sounds like a cool car!
Here's the pic of the outside of the car. The hood stripes are not original to the car as it is not coded on the fender tag and it is also NOT an air grabber hood. The red inserts will be repainted to the correct black.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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pic of undercarriage which I think is factory undercoating.
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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Does the car code for A05? If yes, then the undercoating was included in the package.
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Over 2,000 thanks to you!
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Re: 69 GTX convert w/ factory undercoating?
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