Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: burdar]
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08/20/09 12:17 PM
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Hmmm, The brackets I bought definately space the bumper out less than the ones I took off. The 73 brackets were boxy, similar in construction to these. the ones I bought look like these.
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: CJK440]
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08/20/09 12:49 PM
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CJK440,
Regarding your questions, the 70-72 bumper mounting bolts are located in the same location.
You do not need to use the filler stip. However, you will have to plug or fill in the retaining holes as a result of removing the filler from your '73. Don't forget you will need to procure a set of the '70-'72 bumperettes or fill in the rear valance gap.
On the front, the '71 bracket is not compatible with your '73 bumper, same as the back.... You have two options. Use the '71 bracket and find a 70-72 front bumper. Or two, redrill your existing bracket per the prior poster's instructions. Use can use your front bumper and merely remove the large bumperettes. Just place a bumper bolt in the holes where the bumperttes were secured. The '70-72 do not have this extra hole.
The only other things that you may want to consider is on the front corners of the 70-72 bumpers are rubber wedges which swedged into the corners on each side of the front bumper. Your '73 does not have them. Perhaps you can add them if if it matters?
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: cruzin]
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08/20/09 01:27 PM
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You do not need to use the filler stip. However, you will have to plug or fill in the retaining holes as a result of removing the filler from your '73. Don't forget you will need to procure a set of the '70-'72 bumperettes or fill in the rear valance gap.
True, you don't HAVE to use the 70-72 filler strip, but as you stand at the rear of the car, by the bumper, and look down, you will see a very noticeable gap without the strip. That why the factory went to the trouble of using the filler strip, and that's the same reason that I did...
I used about 7 self-tapping sheet metal screws to attach my filler to the bottom of the rear end taillight panel. The screw tips protrude slightly into the very lower inside of my trunk, but are not noticeable unless I point them out to someone.
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
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08/20/09 01:31 PM
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Here is one of the pics Challenger1 sent me of his 74 brackets.
It's not showing up for some reason but you can see it if you open up the attachment.
Last edited by burdar; 08/20/09 01:35 PM.
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: Challenger 1]
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08/20/09 02:35 PM
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I'll take some pics of what I got. It looks like the 74 brackets pictured have the bumper mounting tabs roughly parallel to part that bolts to the body.
I think the ones I have definatley have an angle to them, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: CJK440]
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08/20/09 03:52 PM
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Heres a pic comparing the two.
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: 318 Stroker]
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08/20/09 05:42 PM
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Besides, the 70-72 bumpers have holes in different locations than the 73-74, and there are no holes for the guards...
I don't think this is a true statement, I bolted 70 garuds on my 74 without drilling any holes, filled the extra holes with chromed bumper bolts. See this old thread. web page
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: jrwoodjoe]
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08/20/09 05:45 PM
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The lower one in the pic is the 70-71 style.
Joe
Aren't the 72s the same as 70-71?
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
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08/21/09 07:54 AM
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The lower one in the pic is the 70-71 style.
Joe
Aren't the 72s the same as 70-71?
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Re: Challenger - Rear Bumper Guards
[Re: burdar]
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08/21/09 10:06 AM
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Looky what I found, it adds to my confusion. I'm 98% sure these are the rubber bumpers I took off my 74 about 15 years ago. They appear to be the short ones? I'm 90% sure this is the bumper I removed from a 73 car that I had in the 80s. Strangly it has one longer rubber bumper on it and one smaller rubber bumper. So I'd say there were long and short bumpers, I would think the longer ones go on a later car(74) but like I said the ones that came off my 74 car appear to be the shorter ones. Short one: Longer one on the same bumper, I guess someone changed it before I got the car. I haven't found the brackets for the 73 bumper yet, so I can't tell what belongs on there as far as brackets go.
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