MSD Atomic EFI problem solved! MSD was not at fault
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05/03/13 09:58 PM
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Has anyone else tried the MSD Atomic EFI? I installed one and it works fine when the car is cold or warmed up, but as the car gets to operatng temperature, it runs erratic, stalls and then won't restart. No fault codes on the handheld but it shows no RPM on the display screen when cranking which means the injectors are shut off. The unit takes it's rpm signal from a white wire connected to the neg side of the coil. What would cause it to lose it's signal? When I crank it with the key on and coil wire off and near ground, it has spark so I don't think the coil or ignition is to blame. Once the car has cooled down for about 1/2 hour it will show an rpm signal on the display and fire up.
Was embarrasing and dangerous when it quit in traffic!!!!
MSD tech line leaves a lot to be desired too.
Last edited by demon; 05/06/13 02:17 PM.
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
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05/03/13 10:04 PM
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What is your fuel pressure? Needs to see pressure before it will fire the injectors. What is the IAC set at when it was running? Bad Coil? What ignition are you using?
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
[Re: Andrewh]
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05/03/13 11:03 PM
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Fuel pressure is always good. 55 psi with a return and regulator. IAC is 0 The spark is always there. I've tried 3 different ecus and still spark. So I've ruled that out. The coil is a brand new Mopar restoration from Chrysler. Chrysler electronic ignition with 4 post ballast. Wiring harness is a brand new B body with electronic ignition from Year One. The MSD display shows no rpm signal but no other faults. 1/2 hour later it starts right up.
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
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05/03/13 11:11 PM
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could it have to do with using the ballast resistor? possibly its getting hot and causing enough voltage drop to the coil that its not getting a hot enough signal to the injection ecm? Don't know anything about that system just spit ballin. after that I would be leaning towards the injection ecm itself.
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
[Re: demon]
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05/04/13 12:01 AM
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Quote:
Fuel pressure is always good. 55 psi with a return and regulator.
Looks like it is with return.
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
[Re: Stanton]
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05/04/13 01:54 AM
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No offense BUT wouldn't you be better off posting on the Atomic EFI forum?
I agree.
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
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05/04/13 02:08 AM
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It's all good Guys. I didn't even know this system existed until I read it on here. Of all the hokey, complicated and expensive EFI systems that are on the market it's nice to see this setup out there. If we can troubleshoot it, then that's a selling point I consider: User-Friendly.
Mo' Farts
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
[Re: demon]
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05/18/13 10:47 PM
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So after a good long test drive I think the problem is solved! Just needed the reluctor gap adjusted. I didnt think to look at it since it was a brand new distributor and had been dyno run. Goes to show you can't assume anything.
Glad to see you got it figured out, I think this setup is very interesting , especially if it will work with E85.
I was at PepBoys and they have it for 1999.95, I have a 10% discount coupon so that would bring it down to 1800.00. I already have an MSD Billet distributor, street fire ignition and a 383 stroker with 12.5 compression ...
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Re: MSD Atomic EFI problems. Help please
[Re: JohnRR]
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05/19/13 10:51 AM
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Neat looking system. Does this system have its roots based on the system that came out about 7 years ago? That system resembled a typical Holly carb. The other systems on the market like Megasquirt do indeed look intimidating for the do it yourselfer.
Keep old mopars alive.
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