Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Not as exotic but it is lighter. In my case that 100lbs is huge.
Agreed. I'm dropping 200 lbs going from a B/RB to my Iron block 6.1...
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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This will be going in a 4dr Jeep
Ok a 400+ cubes of all alum gen 3 hemi in a 4dr Jeep. Ok now you have to spill the beans on what the whole project is
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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This will be going in a 4dr Jeep
Ok a 400+ cubes of all alum gen 3 hemi in a 4dr Jeep. Ok now you have to spill the beans on what the whole project is
Just something I am looking into. It's my daily driver and the 3.8 sucks. I figured this was a great place to start asking about the Gen 111 Hemi
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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This will be going in a 4dr Jeep
Ok a 400+ cubes of all alum gen 3 hemi in a 4dr Jeep. Ok now you have to spill the beans on what the whole project is
Just something I am looking into. It's my daily driver and the 3.8 sucks. I figured this was a great place to start asking about the Gen 111 Hemi
I am big fan of the GenIII hemi but if you are looking for a daily driver i would just do a 5.7 stroker "392" I myself have the alum block already and the 6.4 heads for my challenger, however the block was $4200 plus another 1300 for the heads, You can get a whole 5.7 with the computer and drive acc. for that price or less and build a stroker from the 5.7/392 can make a easily 500+hp with the stock block and heads
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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The Jeep is already heavy and though I do agree the 5.7 would be cheaper the fact that it's 100lbs lighter and it's all aluminum really is what has me looking in that direction.
Ya thats why i went the Alum block route, but if you not building the jeep to race the a 392 stroker on a daily driver 100 pounds is not mgoing to make much of a difference, If only mother mopar had a factory alum block mass produce for have the cost say around 2k
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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This will be going in a 4dr Jeep
Ok a 400+ cubes of all alum gen 3 hemi in a 4dr Jeep. Ok now you have to spill the beans on what the whole project is
He is re-powering the Dart. He is looking for a weight break by going with a small block.
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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The Jeep is already heavy and though I do agree the 5.7 would be cheaper the fact that it's 100lbs lighter and it's all aluminum really is what has me looking in that direction.
a hundred pounds isn't gonna mean squat on that daily driver....save $$$$ build a stroked 5.7
Start looking for a tune to go with it
Better yet....throw some hair dryers or a s-charger on it
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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I would use a 5.7 block, add a K1 Stroker kit, clean up the heads, reuse a truck intake and add a small 220/220 ish cam. Huge torque and driveability for a little bit more than the block alone.
If you want to do it, buy the alum block. We all understand lol.
Yea the aluminum block is probably which way I want to go. So the search and reading will begin.
BTW it's definitely not for the Dart. Someone else will be playing with it soon enough.
The big question is finding a good gen111 builder
BES all the way.
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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I would use a 5.7 block, add a K1 Stroker kit, clean up the heads, reuse a truck intake and add a small 220/220 ish cam. Huge torque and driveability for a little bit more than the block alone.
If you want to do it, buy the alum block. We all understand lol.
Yea the aluminum block is probably which way I want to go. So the search and reading will begin.
BTW it's definitely not for the Dart. Someone else will be playing with it soon enough.
The big question is finding a good gen111 builder
Whats the Goal....????
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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I would use a 5.7 block, add a K1 Stroker kit, clean up the heads, reuse a truck intake and add a small 220/220 ish cam. Huge torque and driveability for a little bit more than the block alone.
If you want to do it, buy the alum block. We all understand lol.
Yea the aluminum block is probably which way I want to go. So the search and reading will begin.
BTW it's definitely not for the Dart. Someone else will be playing with it soon enough.
The big question is finding a good gen111 builder
Whats the Goal....????
Rickster
Question number 1 was finally asked.
No major goals. I was going with a ripp but the cost is't worth it when I can do a Hemi for just a bit more
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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I would use a 5.7 block, add a K1 Stroker kit, clean up the heads, reuse a truck intake and add a small 220/220 ish cam. Huge torque and driveability for a little bit more than the block alone.
If you want to do it, buy the alum block. We all understand lol.
Yea the aluminum block is probably which way I want to go. So the search and reading will begin.
BTW it's definitely not for the Dart. Someone else will be playing with it soon enough.
The big question is finding a good gen111 builder
Whats the Goal....????
Rickster
Question number 1 was finally asked.
No major goals. I was going with a ripp but the cost is't worth it when I can do a Hemi for just a bit more
Goals like, how much power do you want this engine to make? If you want big power, are you prepared to replace the rest of the drive train? The modification of a Jeep never ends. JEEP stands for Just Empty Every Pocket.
All ready in the works swaping out the axles to high pinion 60s and the trans along with the transfer case will be upgraded at the same time. I am already running aftermarket suspension which will be upgraded to a long arm and possible coil overs.
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Then it sounds like you're ready to go all they way on that thing! I hope you start a build thread! Where are you getting the HP60's from? Currie, or? Are you looking at replacing your stock transfer case with a Atlas?
Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Bes what did he make in the engine masters
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Hemifred probably bought the dart he likes silly stuff
Probably... Geez, what I give to own a car like that
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Hemifred probably bought the dart he likes silly stuff
Probably... Geez, what I give to own a car like that
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Hey jerry I really like your hold downs, collars and end plug set up. I'm thinking you will have to ship a set to Glendora Ca soon.
Can you give us any details on that build? What head studs?
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Hey jerry I really like your hold downs, collars and end plug set up. I'm thinking you will have to ship a set to Glendora Ca soon.
Can you give us any details on that build? What head studs?
^^^^^^^^^^ Details please
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Re: MOPAR 6.1L Hemi GEN III Hemi Aluminum Block
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Untouched Apache heads, ARP stud's, Manley Beehive valve springs with steel retainer's. Sharadon rocker ties and end plugs with TWaters rockershaft clamps.
That thing is going to be an animal. I am interested to see what the Apaches can really do on a built motor.
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