Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 540challenger]
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10/29/08 12:20 AM
10/29/08 12:20 AM
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Ya, I have the same engine... I was wondering how good there "warranty" is... now I know... So in short they will not cover it because you might have started it in the "winter" with the choke on.... WHAT???? I have been very unhappy with mine and this is just one more reason to not recommend them to people... Here is my story: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=I have much more to report, but I have not kept up with the thread... The lack of ANY support and inconsistent answers about the balance should have keyed me off from the get go, but.... lesson learned The MP 360 crate engines are much better (I have one as well) but the are not avail any more from what I understand...
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 540challenger]
#142868
10/29/08 07:33 AM
10/29/08 07:33 AM
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When i ask why it wasn't covered they replayed that it might have been caused by cold starts in the winter from the when the choke was closed.
what a load of hogwash. I started my 416 (my build) last night when it was in the low 40's. No broken rings.
maybe I should tear it down and check them???
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
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10/29/08 07:44 AM
10/29/08 07:44 AM
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When i ask why it wasn't covered they replayed that it might have been caused by cold starts in the winter from the when the choke was closed.
what a load of hogwash. I started my 416 (my build) last night when it was in the low 40's. No broken rings.
maybe I should tear it down and check them???
My guess the only ring not seated or broken is number 8 whcih was low on the compression test and the whole story of all the 2nd ring broken is just talked to try to cover it up.
when the ring went i was driving and got gas and saw smoke from under the hood and it was oil pourign out on he breathes i drove it home and there was no sign of power loss all 8 rings broken i think it would run like a terd i am going to call today and speak to someone higher in managment i will keep you guys informed.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: hemiclone]
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10/29/08 08:35 AM
10/29/08 08:35 AM
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What size is the motor and where did you purchase it from? I start my 540 CU Indy Hemi all the time when its cold.. maybe I shouldn't start it anymore?
It is a 408 small block from blue prined engines the whole cold start things is them just them trying to cover up there mistake.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 540challenger]
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10/29/08 09:29 AM
10/29/08 09:29 AM
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You are in a difficult place. You cannot call them morons because they have your engine, yet you know this fact to be true and the truth is always good...... hehehe
Good luck.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 540challenger]
#142873
10/29/08 09:40 AM
10/29/08 09:40 AM
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Cold weather starts did it ? What about the millions of cars in the top half of the country. OH, I guess you need to move to a warmer climate They must of forgot to tell you you would need to move to a warmer climate....
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 70Coronet500Vert]
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10/29/08 09:43 AM
10/29/08 09:43 AM
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You are in a difficult place. You cannot call them morons because they have your engine, yet you know this fact to be true and the truth is always good...... hehehe
Good luck.
LOL True i am going to have to very nicly call them stupid and explain why.
Can you guys tell me what would cause only the 2nd ring to break in any motor.
i got to one mentioned already when installed there broke them.
Too tight of a ring gap.
Anything else just somethings i have to fire at them.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: 69Cuda340S]
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10/29/08 11:47 AM
10/29/08 11:47 AM
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KBs need the top ring larger because of the alloy and design. Not all hypers do, but KB hypers do. The second ring is not designed to be a compression ring, it's an oil scraper. So I'd have to say as BG racing said, it butted or was loose in the lands. I've broken them for both those reasons, but the bore will show sings, and that hole should need to be hit with a hone or brush. It's kinda cheap IMO to run std replacement 2nd rings as opposed to a full file-to-fit set. But this shouldnt be a problem mechanically, just cheap. Choke runs it rich. It might make it harder for the rings to seat initially if it was over rich, but you would see questionable readings on all the holes, not one.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: trouble with my crate engine
[Re: moper]
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10/29/08 12:31 PM
10/29/08 12:31 PM
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i have to agree with the others. is that one of those companies that sells really cheap rebuilt engines?
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