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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: goldmember]
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04/23/13 07:36 AM
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Mine is a 9" from ultimate.We decided to start around 5600 and adjust from there. Tach says 5600 flash on the recall. 3320lbs,572, -1, N/SS manifold and eddys, similar cam spec, 4.10 gear, 10.5x31. So far only 1.37 60. I believe the car will run mid 1.20 when converter,shocks, chassis,carbs are all sorted out.
Doug
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: dvw]
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04/23/13 10:02 AM
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For 900-1000 hp at that weight I would say 9 inch.
I run a glide at 3100 and I have the tightest 8 inch ATI can make in mine and it still flashes 6000+ rpm.
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: moparacer]
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04/23/13 11:49 AM
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No consideration for Continental Converters? I have one of there 8+ converters. They asked all the right questions, cam card, compression, ect... Every car (6 total) that we have put a Continental in has worked very well. When I was down at the March Meet I asked each guy I talked to what converter he was running and most of them were Continental. Al is right! Without going out spending alot of money, changing brands and running different converters you will never find the "magic bullet"!  
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: moparacer]
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04/23/13 11:55 AM
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It obviously depends on many factors, all of you are smart enough to know this. Don's motor has more stroke than Al's Chris' or Jess'. So even though they are all B1 motors making in excess of 900HP, 1 converter isn't going to be the best for all 3 of them. Al's motor needs a bunch of RPM to work well and be efficient, Don's motor is 50 cubes bigger, and the heads probably dont flow as well, which will bring his powerband down.
With the 3 speed, I think he's going to have a battle on his hands getting it to hook, the 9" might calm the hit down enough to make it work.
FWIW, My new converter is an Ultimate. Based on my combo Lenny gave me the option of an 8" or a 9" said he would build either as my combo was borderline in his opinion. I chose the 8", I felt it was more conventional, and would would be a better converter in the future if I ever change the combo.
All you can do is go with your gut Don, and hope its "the best". There's always going to be something better, someone faster...
-Dustin
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
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04/23/13 12:57 PM
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I think some folks get it. 900hp I'm officially but hurt now  FWIW when we ran the 572" Hemi in the car the best working converter was....wait for it....an 8" ATI. Even after their insistence, and me buying and trying one of thier 9" units. As I say I am not using my hoopty as my only point of reference. As for the TF deal as Bill Creech what happened with his experience. He ended up with an 8" ATI and that car ran pretty well at 9.30's at 3100lb with a 511" stock block deal. Guess my point is THEY DONT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT no matter who it is.... Casey glad to hear your results and that you picked up. Now question is are you willing to try another converter or lossening that one up to see what happens?? FWIW I would recommend ATI if anyone who asked me for a recommendation for a bracket converter. IMO they are willing to get it right. Wonder what you guys will say about my three 7" converters or the 8" we have that goes to 7800 
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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04/23/13 01:15 PM
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My opwn opinion - it depends on who you decide to work with because as they all hav said - you will be pulling it a couple times at least for tweaking. So that makes the company you deal with critical and yes I agree with Al that a simple cut and inspect can ruin the setup. I've see that personally but at a much lower performance level. My history isn't anywhere near the ETs you guys are reaching for - however my first call would be to Lenny @ Ultimate. I have multi-make friends that are very happy with his stuff, and I like the few conversations we have had. Consistent results are what you need to expect and I feel Lenny could do it best.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: Triple Threat]
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04/23/13 02:35 PM
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I wanted an 8" ati for my car. When I told them I use my car on the street they said forget it, we won't build you a converter. I asked why and they said it will build to much heat and then you will bad mouth us on the internet.
I gave them credit for turning me down instead of just building something I wanted and taking my money.
Lenny insisted on a 9 for street driving duties
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
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04/23/13 04:42 PM
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Jeep, after you get the car to the track a few times and see how the whole deal performs, then you can decide just how much you want to spend chasing the ultimate setup. There is no end to it, only when your wallet (or body) gets sore from enough testing. My opionion is that if you think the first converter setup is very close, don't mess with it. Buy another (or two)to test with.
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: Biginchmopar]
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04/23/13 08:04 PM
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No consideration for Continental Converters? I have one of there 8+ converters. They asked all the right questions, cam card, compression, ect...
Every car (6 total) that we have put a Continental in has worked very well.
When I was down at the March Meet I asked each guy I talked to what converter he was running and most of them were Continental.
Al is right! Without going out spending alot of money, changing brands and running different converters you will never find the "magic bullet"!
Continental..
I used them when I lived back in So. Cal when I was a youngster.. They worked fairly well.
Then I graduated to Munsinger, who is Top Notch.. But who wants to wait 4-6 months for a converter?? 
On another note, most of the internals for these converters are manufactured by The Converter Shop in Havasu.. Rusty..
That is one impressive shop there. 
Chris.. 
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
[Re: Thumperdart]
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04/24/13 02:39 AM
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Been preaching this for years..........finally gave up since he`s not really a "big name company" in most peoples minds. My 5000+ 8" Continental has worked flawlessly for 10+ years BUT, I don`t make as much power as most of you guys............. 
...and I would think a little higher stall 9" converter would be interesting in your car. Especially with your "street" driving. I only had one converter in the Mirada. It was a 9" from Lenny back in his TCT era. The car worked well and was consistant so we never messed with it. The Duster on the other hand has three converters as we seemed to change combo's on that car a little too often. Two were spec'ed for our W5, and one for the iron head 360. I'll be starting with the 8" when the W8 project gets done.
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Re: Torque Converter tech tips..
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04/24/13 03:18 AM
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Been preaching this for years..........finally gave up since he`s not really a "big name company" in most peoples minds. My 5000+ 8" Continental has worked flawlessly for 10+ years BUT, I don`t make as much power as most of you guys.............
Believe it or not, I called Continetal first, but Peter (I think that's his name) was too busy to come to the phone and didnt return the call until this morning, which was after I placed the order with ATI
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Sorry they didn`t get back w/ya and I deal w/Chris the owner only but if you`d like I can call him tomorrow for ya. 