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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Keith Black®] #1423527
05/14/13 09:31 AM
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?




Our control arm uses upper and lower bump stops.




The Hotchkis UCA's are slick. I'm looking to replace my FF UCA's with these.




DarrenB,

Not questioning your thinking...but want to learn more about these arms.

If you already have FF arms, what is it about the Hotchkis pieces that is so appealing that you would want to change them?


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: DynoDave] #1423528
05/14/13 10:09 AM
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Some UCA's require notching away sheet metal to install them for clearance (Hotchkis). This is the one reason I won't run them on my car, I only want to add completely reversable upgrades to my car.....

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: DynoDave] #1423529
05/14/13 10:14 AM
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?




Our control arm uses upper and lower bump stops.




The Hotchkis UCA's are slick. I'm looking to replace my FF UCA's with these.




DarrenB,

Not questioning your thinking...but want to learn more about these arms.

If you already have FF arms, what is it about the Hotchkis pieces that is so appealing that you would want to change them?




Our control arms not only shift the ball joint location like most of the other arms on the market, our re-located pick up point also improves camber and bump curves drastically. That with both the heim joints allows for a fully adjustable setup.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1423530
05/14/13 10:20 AM
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Some UCA's require notching away sheet metal to install them for clearance (Hotchkis). This is the one reason I won't run them on my car, I only want to add completely reversable upgrades to my car.....




The material removed is minimal; non-structural and not visible once the car is assembled.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1423531
05/14/13 01:13 PM
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Would it be visible of the stock arms were put back on?

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1423532
05/14/13 01:42 PM
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You would be pretty hard pressed to notice or find the missing metal if ground properly. I am fairly confident that the modification would not harm the perceived value of our cars.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1423533
05/14/13 05:27 PM
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DynoDave., its the relocation of the pivot point and resulting camber adjustment that is appealing. I have a ton of other modifications as well so I feel they will work well with my combo.


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1423534
05/15/13 11:31 AM
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IIRC that's only for E-bodies. The A-body UCA doesn't involve any modification.


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: cudazappa] #1423535
05/16/13 01:13 AM
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IIRC that's only for E-bodies. The A-body UCA doesn't involve any modification.





Now that's something I had not heard! Are you certain of this?

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1423536
05/16/13 02:36 AM
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Correct. The B and E's in just to clear the relocation bracket's hardware.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1423537
05/16/13 12:45 PM
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Awesome I'm back in for some then

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: cudazappa] #1423538
05/16/13 02:12 PM
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IIRC that's only for E-bodies. The A-body UCA doesn't involve any modification.




The little lip was cut on my A-body for the Hotchkis A-Arms for installation. I have pics I can show later.

I believe it is covered in the instructions if you download and read them.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: autoxcuda] #1423539
05/18/13 02:05 PM
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Well after stewing on this awhile I dedided to bite the bullet and bought the firm feel UCA'S I really like these guys and have always treated me well.Will get the m painted to match my combo and installed this weekend.Also decided to up my torsion bars to 1.00 units should make for an awesome cruiser!Thanks everyone


Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423540
05/31/13 02:02 AM
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This is for you autoxcuda. I came across these on e-bay. They were interesting and super adjustable.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423541
05/31/13 03:09 AM
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This is for you autoxcuda. I came across these on e-bay. They were interesting and super adjustable.




are they custom made? do you have the link? edit i found it:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/B-E-Body-Adjustab...r#ht_823wt_1141

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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: dangina] #1423542
05/31/13 05:53 AM
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The idea of unprotected Heim joints on the street seems risky to me.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Jjs72D] #1423543
05/31/13 09:51 AM
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A-Body

A-body Aluminum

Interesting stuff!

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423544
06/01/13 09:40 PM
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: jcc] #1423545
06/01/13 10:03 PM
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I don't think I would run those in aluminium.


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: 67autocross] #1423546
06/01/13 10:48 PM
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All those parts are common in circle track racing( not expensive) and made from steel usually. I have never seen them in aluminum?


edit: I see what your saying now
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/A-Body-ALUMINUM-u...=item48556cea42

That's just plain dumb!

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