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Tubular UCA'S to much? #1423507
04/21/13 11:06 PM
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I'm in the process of putting my 69 Bee back together.I welded up the K-frame and installed it with the stock BB torsion bars.Have sector support,11/16 tie rods firm feel stage 2 box,new pitman,rollerized idler.This car is going to be a driver,with that said I want it to ride well with decent handling but won't be racing this one much.So to my question will tubular uca's compliment my combo or are they a waste on a driver?Would offset bushings be better for this combo?car will get a good set of aftermarket sway bars also?Thanks guys

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423508
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The best thing you could do is step up in the torsion bars. Read the Andy F article about t-bars, then some decent shocks. The offset bushings should get the alignment set for modern tires and handling. There are plenty of threads here about the options. HTH, Steve

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423509
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I think a set of FF uppers would be a great addition if you could get them with some moog rubber bushings especially. The ability to get a decent amount of caster is their benefit IMO. Poly bushings do increase harshness in the ride dept.


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Skeptic] #1423510
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The best thing you could do is step up in the torsion bars. Read the Andy F article about t-bars, then some decent shocks. The offset bushings should get the alignment set for modern tires and handling. There are plenty of threads here about the options. HTH, Steve




I thought very hard about upping the T-bars,but this is a long range cruiser ride is a must.The front end will be way lighter due to the fact that it will have a 5.7 versus a 383 battery in trunk aluminum radiator etc.The car will have bilsteins or fox depending on how much I can get them for.Just need the best tracking handling car for all road conditions it is my understanding from reading a lot of other posts a lighter spring with more sway bar is better for a street type car.Just want to spend my money wisely while I am assembling the front end.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: 72Swinger] #1423511
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I've had Magnum Force arms on my Bee for several years now.I would not put the old ones back on.A really great improvement in road feel and control.

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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: pro451bee] #1423512
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I've had Magnum Force arms on my Bee for several years now.I would not put the old ones back on.A really great improvement in road feel and control.




cool!That what I was looking for wanted to know if they really improved how the car feels.Thanks

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423513
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I've considered buying some type of tubular UCAs for awhile, but other things have taken priority. Usually I wait until I stumble across a small windfall cash like when I have a good weekend selling parts.
I just had a good weekend selling parts.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Kern Dog] #1423514
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I have the RMS tubular uppers on my 68 A-body. With the heim jointed ends, they really free up alot of movement and appears to ride smoother on the road. I also went with 1.0" torsion bars which are not harsh at all. Mopars are already under sprung from the factory. Bigger bars help tremendously. Add front and rear sway bars and you'll be lovin life!


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423515
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I'm in the process of putting my 69 Bee back together.I welded up the K-frame and installed it with the stock BB torsion bars.Have sector support,11/16 tie rods firm feel stage 2 box,new pitman,rollerized idler.This car is going to be a driver,with that said I want it to ride well with decent handling but won't be racing this one much.So to my question will tubular uca's compliment my combo or are they a waste on a driver?Would offset bushings be better for this combo?car will get a good set of aftermarket sway bars also?Thanks guys




I'd go sway bars and or Bilstein RCD shocks before tubular uppers on a street driver.

I'd just put Moog offset 7103 bushings for more caster in your old UCA's.

Also IMHO, the cost of a Firm Feel power steering box and support collar would put you close dollar-wise to a Borgensen power steering box that I think you'd get more driving satisfaction out of.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: autoxcuda] #1423516
04/22/13 09:38 AM
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I prefer SPC double adjustable arms. They may alignment much easier and a much larger range of adjustment.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423517
04/22/13 10:31 AM
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Seems to me you would be happiest doing off set bushings and a good sway bar/shock package, as those will be your biggest bang for the buck. I would suggest our front and rear bars with Bilstien Shocks for the best street cruising.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: autoxcuda] #1423518
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I'm in the process of putting my 69 Bee back together.I welded up the K-frame and installed it with the stock BB torsion bars.Have sector support,11/16 tie rods firm feel stage 2 box,new pitman,rollerized idler.This car is going to be a driver,with that said I want it to ride well with decent handling but won't be racing this one much.So to my question will tubular uca's compliment my combo or are they a waste on a driver?Would offset bushings be better for this combo?car will get a good set of aftermarket sway bars also?Thanks guys






Also IMHO, the cost of a Firm Feel power steering box and support collar would put you close dollar-wise to a Borgensen power steering box that I think you'd get more driving satisfaction out of.




I already had the box amd sector support for the car in my sig pic,but decided on the borgeson box for it instead as it will be my weekend warrior.Thanks for all the replies

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparcyco] #1423519
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423520
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When the suspension is in full droop, like when you catch some air on a backroad.

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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423521
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?




Our control arm uses upper and lower bump stops.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423522
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?




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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: VincentVega] #1423523
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It's not a big deal at all with swaybar links and torsion bars that are unwound at suspension droop. The droop you see when you jack up your car isn't the same as what it will see when its working in the real world. When I jack the front of my car off the ground my torsion bar adjusters are loose as a goose. When a car is airborne the weight of the wheel and tire is not in play, only the travel of the spring to force it away from the car.


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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: VincentVega] #1423524
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Mine works perfectly with the factory rebound bumper,well I did upgraded to poly .

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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: pro451bee] #1423525
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The question was Tubular UCA too much, ok. The least expensive of what looks to be a decent UCA is the Dillinger Chassie piece. They make them for A,B,& E bodies. Poly Prothane urethane bushings and 5 degrees of positive caster built in. Gusseted at the ball joint. Also power coated multiple colors. Starting at $230.00. May be worth looking at.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1423526
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I like others have put off this purchase. I have have a question. All the upper arms that I have seen other than the OEM and FF upper arms have no provision with working with the upper control arm bumper. This may be a stupid question, but how important is this feature?




Our control arm uses upper and lower bump stops.




The Hotchkis UCA's are slick. I'm looking to replace my FF UCA's with these.


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