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Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: brads70] #1423547
06/01/13 11:46 PM
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No, I am not going to buy this item. But what I found interesting and wanted to share with everybody, was the wide range of adjustment. If you read this e-bay sellers other auctions he was offering two versions one used a 1 inch aluminum adjusters and the other auction the UCA used dom .120 steel wall tube adjusters. The way I read it but I could be wrong, one version was using all steel components. Here is a excerpt from that ad.


*built and shipped in stock a-arm specs Up for auction is a pair of fully adjustable control arms (A-arms) for 1962-72 B-body and 1970-74 E-body Mopar, Dodge and Plymouth. Dial in your castor and camber with these homebuilt fully adjustable A arms. Removes unwanted play and excessive movement in the front end by eliminating the rubber bushings. Features in car adjustability high misalignment rod ends, strong DOM .120 wall steel tubes, and ball joint collars (built for racing in IMCA, stock car and NASCAR) upgraded from 3/8" hole to 1/2" hole and fits stock (screw in style) 1968-89 Chrysler K772 ball joints (ball joints not included). Includes steel rod ends and new hardware.

Was it welded around the ball joint collar, obviously. Would it have been better to have been solid billet, yes. But I get tired of seeing Chevy and Ford unique suspension items all the time and when someone comes out with a little different Mopar piece, I think that is cool!

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423548
06/02/13 12:59 AM
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No, I am not going to buy this item. But what I found interesting and wanted to share with everybody, was the wide range of adjustment. If you read this e-bay sellers other auctions he was offering two versions one used a 1 inch aluminum adjusters and the other auction the UCA used dom .120 steel wall tube adjusters. The way I read it but I could be wrong, one version was using all steel components. Here is a excerpt from that ad.


*built and shipped in stock a-arm specs Up for auction is a pair of fully adjustable control arms (A-arms) for 1962-72 B-body and 1970-74 E-body Mopar, Dodge and Plymouth. Dial in your castor and camber with these homebuilt fully adjustable A arms. Removes unwanted play and excessive movement in the front end by eliminating the rubber bushings. Features in car adjustability high misalignment rod ends, strong DOM .120 wall steel tubes, and ball joint collars (built for racing in IMCA, stock car and NASCAR) upgraded from 3/8" hole to 1/2" hole and fits stock (screw in style) 1968-89 Chrysler K772 ball joints (ball joints not included). Includes steel rod ends and new hardware.

Was it welded around the ball joint collar, obviously. Would it have been better to have been solid billet, yes. But I get tired of seeing Chevy and Ford unique suspension items all the time and when someone comes out with a little different Mopar piece, I think that is cool!


Peter Bergmann on here has some arms like those, SPC I think?, that look WAY better built and offer the same adjustment.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: 72Swinger] #1423549
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Haven't seen the SPC piece before, but here it is, the SPC upper control arm. It mentions all steel contruction. Doesn't say but looks like standard bushings, NOT A HEIM JOINT, Peter would know. Price retail on the SPC adjustable piece is $482 a pair. The previous posted upper control arms were $270, that is a difference of $212. Just saying this because the topic of this post is Tubular control arms, too much. Here is a exerpt from the SPC ad.

Product Description
B & E Body, Passenger Side, Front Upper, Fully Adjustable Style, Steel, Black, Dodge, Plymouth, Each

These SPC Performance street rod and musclecar control arms are available in fully adjustable upper or tubular upper and lower control arm configurations. These arms allow you to fine-tune your suspension to meet your exact needs. Tubular-style arms are available to accept stock, coil-over, and air ride suspensions. Camber, caster, offset, and arm lengths are quickly and easily changed on all adjustable arms.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423550
06/05/13 06:58 PM
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I have used this style on a dirt race car for years and never had a failure other than a serious hit in the wheel. I would not hesitate to use them on the street. Those dirt tracks can develop ruts in them you could loose a tractor in and we would run thru them full throtle.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: mod5v] #1423551
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I have used this style on a dirt race car for years and never had a failure other than a serious hit in the wheel.




Which style?

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: moparAL] #1423552
06/07/13 01:55 PM
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The SPC arms have been out for a few years now, but since most of their work is in the Corba kit car business, they have not pursued advertising for their mopar products.

Since the Mopar upper ball joint is used extensively in oval track racing, the mounting cup as show in these two recent styles of control arms is also widely available and it is entirely possible to fab up a system similar to these two with very little effort and quite a bit of cost savings.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: TC@HP2] #1423553
06/09/13 01:35 AM
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Can someone tell me what the difference is on the arms of a 67-72 a-body vs the 66 and earlier ones?

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: SCATPK] #1423554
06/09/13 01:47 AM
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That is a good question. I always thought that the small ball joint Uppers were all the same.
I was happy to read that Dr Diff sells spacers to allow the use of the small upper ball joint arms to be used with the 73 and later disc knuckle.

Re: Tubular UCA'S to much? [Re: SCATPK] #1423555
06/09/13 02:41 PM
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Can someone tell me what the difference is on the arms of a 67-72 a-body vs the 66 and earlier ones?




The 63-67 A-body UCA arms are the same as long as they use the K704 pn ball joint.

The 60-62 A-bodies use a bunch of different suspension pieces and parts. IIRC, they have even smaller UCA ball joints.

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