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I've used them to lift bare blocks around the shop...nice to be able to slide them down cylinders without fear of scratches,,etc. Got the idea from a buddy who does it in his machine shop also....no problems.

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Yes that why I started using them , no scratches.

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Completely stupid and risky idea. After all the rubber has degraded enough that the belt was swapped out from its original use and purpose. It therefore has no tinsel strength and has stretched out because of its original usage. It is just a matter of time before complete failure and either serious or catastrophic injury. Just a bunch of Clowns and Knuckleheads would attempt to do something like this. And I do not care if you can post pics of them being used in such a fashion. It is still freakin...

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Come on! tell us how you really feel, out with it!

What about new one's? think then it would be alright?

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I'm not doubting that they are strong enough to lift a motor, especially 2 per motor.

I've always used a piece of chain with bolt on ends and a lifting loop that can't slip on chain, on the lifting hook when I can't use a carb lifting plate.

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I'm not doubting that they are strong enough to lift a motor, especially 2 per motor.

I've always used a piece of chain with bolt on ends and a lifting loop that can't slip on chain, on the lifting hook when I can't use a carb lifting plate.

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I've used chains and had the bolt break. Was it safer?
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It sounds like you have already kind of made up your mind the answer that you want to hear, so why not just go ahead and use them?

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Things I would not do. No real life experience needed. 1) Pre-soak my brake pads in silicone to prevent squeeks 2) Use 100 nylon zip-ties on a coil spring because I'm to cheap to rent/buy a spring compresser 3) Lift anything at all with an old cracked worn out serpintine belt. All of the above sound like a good reason people make videos that usually begin with "Hold my beer and watch THIS, Vern!" Not knocking you at all. Do as you please. Even Harbor Frieght sells cheap nylon straps made for the job.

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Unless you are in competition to be a Darwin star. I used two belts on a pipe to lift a propane tank. Lets just say I wont make that boneheaded move again.

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i use seat belt alot on stuff that you can't bolt a chain to, never saw a serpentine belt used.

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I'm from PA & when I showed the guys the seat belt trick They hoot & hollered "HillBilly Engineering"

They doubted me when I cut the belts out of the MH we were pulling the low mi 360 out of & bolted them to the engine not tied but bound in the factory binder & preceded to lift engine,MH & 2 Big Boys one in each front seat
6" off the ground because they said "Keep going Keep Going"

They are easy to use

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No, I would not use old serpentine belts to lift an engine. A chain or flexible strap made for that purpose is not very expensive. What is interesting about this post is that one of posters here "values his life too much to use a Harbor Freight floor jack", but lifts his large mower with old V belts.

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Show me a short enough sling to do what I needed to do and not have the engine hoist jacked up sky high where it's unstable.
And the cheap china hoist is very disappointing and what you should be pointing out.

I'd say it's more dangerous than there jacks or the V belt. It's only safe/ok for light duty lifting like in my picture above.

Then a jack stand was used before the blades were changed. A cheap jack is alright if you use jack stands?
So tell me what I'm doing wrong other than using a cheap hoist that I wish I never bought. It's so fricken small that you have bend way over to pump the handle, you can tell is was made for a small person in a far away country. It has swivel casters on all four corners, how are you supposed to steer that?

Too many people have never used a decent engine hoist and think that one is the standard nowadays, it's junk!

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Because you argue with every person who tries to advise you not to do it.

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Because you argue with every person who tries to advise you not to do it.

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No, I would not use old serpentine belts to lift an engine. A chain or flexible strap made for that purpose is not very expensive. What is interesting about this post is that one of posters here "values his life too much to use a Harbor Freight floor jack", but lifts his large mower with old V belts.

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Show me a short enough sling to do what I needed to do and not have the engine hoist jacked up sky high where it's unstable.
And the cheap china hoist is very disappointing and what you should be pointing out.

I'd say it's more dangerous than there jacks or the V belt. It's only safe/ok for light duty lifting like in my picture above.

Then a jack stand was used before the blades were changed. A cheap jack is alright if you use jack stands?
So tell me what I'm doing wrong other than using a cheap hoist that I wish I never bought. It's so fricken small that you have bend way over to pump the handle, you can tell is was made for a small person in a far away country. It has swivel casters on all four corners, how are you supposed to steer that?

Too many people have never used a decent engine hoist and think that one is the standard nowadays, it's junk!

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That's ok. we know you're a professional who's been doing this for 25 years.

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No, I would not use old serpentine belts to lift an engine. A chain or flexible strap made for that purpose is not very expensive. What is interesting about this post is that one of posters here "values his life too much to use a Harbor Freight floor jack", but lifts his large mower with old V belts.

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Show me a short enough sling to do what I needed to do and not have the engine hoist jacked up sky high where it's unstable.
And the cheap china hoist is very disappointing and what you should be pointing out.

I'd say it's more dangerous than there jacks or the V belt. It's only safe/ok for light duty lifting like in my picture above.

Then a jack stand was used before the blades were changed. A cheap jack is alright if you use jack stands?
So tell me what I'm doing wrong other than using a cheap hoist that I wish I never bought. It's so fricken small that you have bend way over to pump the handle, you can tell is was made for a small person in a far away country. It has swivel casters on all four corners, how are you supposed to steer that?

Too many people have never used a decent engine hoist and think that one is the standard nowadays, it's junk!

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That's ok. we know you're a professional who's been doing this for 25 years.

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Completely stupid and risky idea. After all the rubber has degraded enough that the belt was swapped out from its original use and purpose. It therefore has no tinsel strength and has stretched out because of its original usage. It is just a matter of time before complete failure and either serious or catastrophic injury. Just a bunch of Clowns and Knuckleheads would attempt to do something like this. And I do not care if you can post pics of them being used in such a fashion. It is still freakin...

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Another unasked for opinion without any real experience. Complete with insults. Can you not state your position without name calling?

I'll ask you the same question I asked Kevin earlier; why is your inexperienced opinion more important than other people's actual experiences?

What makes you so sure that the belts are outside their useful life? What was their source? In other words, how did you arrive at that opinion? Like you did the other one?

To be perfectly honest, you know NOTHING of the condition or tensile strength of these belts.

Just to be clear here; I have not defended this use of these belts. I am just asking for people's REAL WORLD experiences with them. Good and bad. And it seems that the only people that are afraid of using serpentine belts to lift and pull are the ones that have no experience doing it what so ever. And they are also the same people that appear compelled to call names and sling insults.

Opinionated rants do not convince anyone of anything. That is just arguing, not sharing information.

Oh, and why did you capitalize clowns and knuckleheads?

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I put CLOWNS and KNUCKLEHEADS in caps because it is quite evident that only those types of "Jerry Rigging" individuals will try such a maneuver. I think you answered that yourself by your other posts. Need I say more

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Completely stupid and risky idea. After all the rubber has degraded enough that the belt was swapped out from its original use and purpose. It therefore has no tinsel strength and has stretched out because of its original usage. It is just a matter of time before complete failure and either serious or catastrophic injury. Just a bunch of Clowns and Knuckleheads would attempt to do something like this. And I do not care if you can post pics of them being used in such a fashion. It is still freakin...

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Another unasked for opinion without any real experience. Complete with insults. Can you not state your position without name calling?

I'll ask you the same question I asked Kevin earlier; why is your inexperienced opinion more important than other people's actual experiences?

What makes you so sure that the belts are outside their useful life? What was their source? In other words, how did you arrive at that opinion? Like you did the other one?

To be perfectly honest, you know NOTHING of the condition or tensile strength of these belts.

Just to be clear here; I have not defended this use of these belts. I am just asking for people's REAL WORLD experiences with them. Good and bad. And it seems that the only people that are afraid of using serpentine belts to lift and pull are the ones that have no experience doing it what so ever. And they are also the same people that appear compelled to call names and sling insults.

Opinionated rants do not convince anyone of anything. That is just arguing, not sharing information.

Oh, and why did you capitalize clowns and knuckleheads?

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I put CLOWNS and KNUCKLEHEADS in caps because it is quite evident that only those types of "Jerry Rigging" individuals will try such a maneuver. I think you answered that yourself by your other posts. Need I say more

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Completely stupid and risky idea. After all the rubber has degraded enough that the belt was swapped out from its original use and purpose. It therefore has no tinsel strength and has stretched out because of its original usage. It is just a matter of time before complete failure and either serious or catastrophic injury. Just a bunch of Clowns and Knuckleheads would attempt to do something like this. And I do not care if you can post pics of them being used in such a fashion. It is still freakin...

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Another unasked for opinion without any real experience. Complete with insults. Can you not state your position without name calling?

I'll ask you the same question I asked Kevin earlier; why is your inexperienced opinion more important than other people's actual experiences?

What makes you so sure that the belts are outside their useful life? What was their source? In other words, how did you arrive at that opinion? Like you did the other one?

To be perfectly honest, you know NOTHING of the condition or tensile strength of these belts.

Just to be clear here; I have not defended this use of these belts. I am just asking for people's REAL WORLD experiences with them. Good and bad. And it seems that the only people that are afraid of using serpentine belts to lift and pull are the ones that have no experience doing it what so ever. And they are also the same people that appear compelled to call names and sling insults.

Opinionated rants do not convince anyone of anything. That is just arguing, not sharing information.

Oh, and why did you capitalize clowns and knuckleheads?

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I put CLOWNS and KNUCKLEHEADS in caps because it is quite evident that only those types of "Jerry Rigging" individuals will try such a maneuver. I think you answered that yourself by your other posts. Need I say more

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Limited vocabulary, inability to comprehend, erroneous assumptions, ignorant assertions, and improper punctuation.

You do not need to say more.

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I loose that bet.... Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! I just re-read your comments about my lack of and having a limited vocabulary, inability to comprehend, erroneous assumptions, ignorant assertions, and improper punctuation. The last one really caught my eye. One might want to check his own statements out before asserting their perfection in the writing and comprehension skills. Seems that one might want to procure some much needed remedial education to that implied synopsis...

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It's all in good fun until you lose an eye... or foot.

I for one don't take anything too seriously except the wealth of experience and willingness to help around here. I think this thread went from answering the question to an honest debate to screwing around a while ago!

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I totally agree. May be I was being somewhat over baring about my position but I am always quite concerned about "Safety" and doing things in that manner is all. Using items outside their intended use has always seemed rather dangerous to say the least. Do you think a retraction would help????