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Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413387 07/05/13 01:12 AM 07/05/13 01:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,949 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,949 Freeport IL USA	Quote: It had a fabric covered top originally over a wood framework. I'm not sure why they were done this way. My guess is cost savings in production. Maybe someone else can enlighten us? Arno I don't think they had the capacity to stamp a full metal roof until 1935. Mopar was about the first to have a full metal roof in 35, everything before that had a cloth insert unless it was just tin tacked with nails over a wood frame. Gene

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413388 07/05/13 05:39 AM 07/05/13 05:39 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder	Quote: It had a fabric covered top originally over a wood framework. I'm not sure why they were done this way. My guess is cost savings in production. Maybe someone else can enlighten us? Arno the reason this was done this way was because there wasn't a press or die big enough to stamp a top section in one piece. all manufacturers did this untill 36 or 37. in the early days it was only possible to stamp front, rear, and rt/lft sides then weld together to form the top. the welds were often very poor as the joints weren't precise by any means. they were then leaded over to fill the seams. the resulting hole was then filled with a wooden framework covered with "chicken" wire and a fabric covering.[my humpback has the luxury of having 2 holes in the roof made this way.] i read this somewhere a million years ago in a book about henry ford....... gene, you are right. mopar was the first to make a solid top, but in 35 the sedans still had a roof insert, at least the early production ones had them. not sure about 36, but all had a "one piece" top in 37. Last edited by moparx; 07/05/13 05:43 AM.

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: moparx] #1413389 07/05/13 11:24 PM 07/05/13 11:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Quote: Quote: It had a fabric covered top originally over a wood framework. I'm not sure why they were done this way. My guess is cost savings in production. Maybe someone else can enlighten us? Arno the reason this was done this way was because there wasn't a press or die big enough to stamp a top section in one piece. all manufacturers did this untill 36 or 37. in the early days it was only possible to stamp front, rear, and rt/lft sides then weld together to form the top. the welds were often very poor as the joints weren't precise by any means. they were then leaded over to fill the seams. the resulting hole was then filled with a wooden framework covered with "chicken" wire and a fabric covering.[my humpback has the luxury of having 2 holes in the roof made this way.] i read this somewhere a million years ago in a book about henry ford....... gene, you are right. mopar was the first to make a solid top, but in 35 the sedans still had a roof insert, at least the early production ones had them. not sure about 36, but all had a "one piece" top in 37. I knew there would be people on here that could answer that. Thanks guys!

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: MuuMuu101] #1413390 07/07/13 02:37 PM 07/07/13 02:37 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins master
Robbins master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	That's going to be a sweet ride! Moparlee

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: Robbins] #1413391 04/12/14 08:20 PM 04/12/14 08:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Been about 6 months since I have been able to work on the 34. Hopefully have now remodeled my last bathroon and got back to the car on Friday. It took awhile to get things sorted in my head again as to what to tackle next. As usual I started on several areas at once. It seems to help when I get stuck for ideas to stop on one area and move to another. Not really my style but it seems to work on this thing. I've never done sheet metal replacement before so this is all new to me. I was able to buy some patch panels but many patches need to be custom bent. Fortunately I have a friend that was a body man and he gives me some pointers if I get stuck. I feel for you guys in the rust belt. Here are a few new pics. 8110290-2014sheetmetalrepair001.JPG (140 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413392 04/12/14 08:25 PM 04/12/14 08:25 PM
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B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	That first picture is the passenger side where the A pillar meets the roof. The sheet metal was pretty much gone. Had to figure out how to patch this rather complicated piece. Ended up making it in two pieces that will be welded together. This pic is where I left off today, still needing some tweeking, but getting there. 8110300-2014sheetmetalrepair002.JPG (135 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413393 04/12/14 08:28 PM 04/12/14 08:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	The replacement rear panel welded in place. I have to recreate the ends where it transitions into the rear quarters. 8110304-2014sheetmetalrepair003.JPG (143 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413394 04/12/14 08:30 PM 04/12/14 08:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Lastly, this is the passenger side front cowl patch panel. It also has some more fitting to be done but pretty close. 8110306-2014sheetmetalrepair004.JPG (91 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413395 04/12/14 11:51 PM 04/12/14 11:51 PM
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5wndwcpe pro stock Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,528 Southeast PA	Quote: The replacement rear panel welded in place. I have to recreate the ends where it transitions into the rear quarters. Hey Arno, Where did you get the rear splash pan ? The last time I worked on mine, nobody was making Mopar stuff. We had to adapt Ford pieces or make them from scratch. 1968 GTX hardtop 1968 Sport Satellite Convertible 383/4spd 1933 Plymouth coupe 2002 Ram 2500 oil burner 4x4 2015 Grand Cherokee 2013 Challenger 1957 Chrysler Saratoga Man...I need a bigger freakin' garage.

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: 5wndwcpe] #1413396 04/13/14 12:01 AM 04/13/14 12:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Quote: Quote: The replacement rear panel welded in place. I have to recreate the ends where it transitions into the rear quarters. Hey Arno, Where did you get the rear splash pan ? The last time I worked on mine, nobody was making Mopar stuff. We had to adapt Ford pieces or make them from scratch. I got all my patch panels from Floyds Body Shop. http://rileyreproductions.com/patchpanels.html Their stuff is very nice/accurate and reasonably priced as far as I'm concerned. I'm looking at Ford repro drip mouldings for mine.

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413397 04/13/14 07:41 AM 04/13/14 07:41 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,506 north of coder	you are doing good arno ! keep up the good work !

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: moparx] #1413398 04/14/14 11:25 PM 04/14/14 11:25 PM
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Hemi Allstate master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,686 Mt. Eden Ky.	Quote: you are doing good arno ! keep up the good work ! It's GREAT to see this progress. Keep up the good work Arno! 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1413399 04/15/14 04:50 AM 04/15/14 04:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	i think we all have had our projects pushed back at one time or another,,,,glad your back on it 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: fstfish66] #1413400 04/19/14 07:31 PM 04/19/14 07:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca. B B1arno OP super stock
B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Got a little time to work on it again today. The bottoms of the doors had some pretty funky rust repair done on them so I'm cutting out the old repair to see what I can do. The first three pics are of the pass side and the last two are the drivers side. Now to figure what I'm going to do to fix it! 8117870-34doors003.JPG (76 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413401 04/19/14 07:31 PM 04/19/14 07:31 PM
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B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	#2 8117871-34doors005.JPG (118 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413402 04/19/14 07:32 PM 04/19/14 07:32 PM
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B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	#3 8117872-34doors009.JPG (120 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413403 04/19/14 07:33 PM 04/19/14 07:33 PM
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B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	#4 8117873-34doors010.JPG (68 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413404 04/19/14 07:33 PM 04/19/14 07:33 PM
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B1arno OP super stock B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,039 Redwood City Ca.	Last 8117875-34doors011.JPG (130 downloads)

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: B1arno] #1413405 04/19/14 09:39 PM 04/19/14 09:39 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	34 ford patch panels? R.

Re: 34 Dodge Update [Re: dogdays] #1413406 04/20/14 03:47 AM 04/20/14 03:47 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: 34 ford patch panels? R. there is a guy called the plymouth doctor, he makes panels but i dont know for what all he makes panels for or how to get a hold of him,,, 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

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