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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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03/31/13 07:36 PM
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why not spray water? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYw2q7igDGs helps control the burn. Makes 93 act like 116. you can run as much advance as you need... this is also worth looking at..
Repeat that test with straight alcohol, Methanol, Ethanol, Denatured or what ever is easist to get for you, and see what the results are    You won't be disappointed  BTW, the inlet temps on most boosted motors dictates how much total timing they can run Alochol absorbs heat as it evaporates  
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: OUTLAWD]
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03/31/13 09:02 PM
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All the makers seem to recommend water and meth not just meth.
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
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03/31/13 10:29 PM
03/31/13 10:29 PM
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All the makers seem to recommend water and meth not just meth.
using an inj kit will require some planning,testing like they say your results may very.
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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04/01/13 08:07 AM
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All the makers seem to recommend water and meth not just meth.
Straight Metanol alcholol absorbs,sucks, moisture out of the air and that mixture ends up making it very corrosive, especially on aluminum, don't ask me how I know that  Maybe the kit makers want you to dilute the Methanol enough to stop the corrosion from adding a small amount of moisture to it like it will do on its own If so I would use either straight Ethanol or denatured alcholol like you can buy in any Wal Mart or paint or hardware store
I think the instructions call for the washer fluid to be at 49% alcohol.
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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04/01/13 02:50 PM
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Well as far as I understand,there are a couple reasons for water/meth instead of straight alcohol. As stated corrosion: eats everything - can`t let it sit either. :fire hazard -water/ meth is not fuel ,straight meth is and requires all the safety and restrictions gas does. IE.lines,tank,shipping,storage etc... I`ve seen test after test,the stuff works. Does meth only work better,yes.... But what is your goal??? What are you willing to do to get it????
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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04/01/13 03:42 PM
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They supposedly recommend using a 50/50 mix of water/methanol for the best combination of air charge cooling and detonation control. Most washer fluids rated between -20 and -35 degree's below zero contain between 30-40% methanol (but not all so check the lable)which is what I have used. Pretty hard to find in summer here though 
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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04/01/13 03:49 PM
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They supposedly recommend using a 50/50 mix of water/methanol for the best combination of air charge cooling and detonation control. Most washer fluids rated between -20 and -35 degree's below zero contain between 30-40% methanol which is what I have used. Pretty hard to find in summer here though
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CTD Ram 4x4 Mega Cab
Procharged 350Z
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: 6bblFLASH]
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04/02/13 03:27 AM
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Well I think I have found a solution. I drilled a passage from the side of the carb. main body between the venturi`s which intersects with a hole coming up from the bottom thru the baseplate inline with the air cleaner stud.  This base already has a 5/8 recessed hole in the center of the throttle blades. I will drill it thru and tap 1/8NPT and thread a nozzle there spraying straight down into the top of the blower. The outside passage will also be tapped to plump the high pressure water/meth. The rest will be like any other install.  I will take some pic`s once its done.
70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
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Re: Water/Meth Injection
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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04/02/13 05:56 PM
04/02/13 05:56 PM
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I had a Spearco unit on my gasser Dodge dually with a weak-400 motor .... it would clean-up a dirty plug DIRECTLY ...almost like it was sandblasted..... but it would go through a TON of water !!
I still have a new one in a box somewhere. They always reminded me of a windshield washer bottle/pump with a simple plastic nozzle for an injecter...
The snow performance units are more substantial looking. But, that is why they cost more. They are much more scienced out than an old Spearco.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Not much room for anything else in the combustion chambers is there 
