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Re: Rampage [Re: Bad340fish] #1407899 06/30/13 07:06 PM 06/30/13 07:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	hate to hear that Mike, don't know how you could end up with low oil pressure unless something is bad wrong like a plug missing plug or really loose bearings or something. I have to fight to keep it low with a stock pump.

Re: Rampage [Re: Quicktree] #1407900 06/30/13 07:38 PM 06/30/13 07:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: hate to hear that Mike, don't know how you could end up with low oil pressure unless something is bad wrong like a plug missing plug or really loose bearings or something. I have to fight to keep it low with a stock pump. I dont know but that engine is coming out.. I'll look at it but I'm putting in my W-2.. thats been a great engine for years now.. the W-5 sure ran strong while it was in there

Re: Rampage [Re: all spooled up] #1407901 06/30/13 09:51 PM 06/30/13 09:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407902 07/02/13 04:20 PM 07/02/13 04:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I did a compression check today on the W-2 in the race car and like I figured its a sorta low compression set up... 160 - 170 cranking pressure... even the oil pressure looked good during cranking.. I pulled that engine out and its on the stand for a freshen up now... I'll give it a once over tomorrow to see what it needs and order parts... then I'll pull the engine in the Rampage.. hopefully I can be back on the road in a week or two max Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 07/02/13 04:24 PM.

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407903 07/02/13 07:00 PM 07/02/13 07:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Mike.. you do know that half of Moparts is living this adventure thru you.. keep up the good work 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Rampage [Re: Jeepmon] #1407904 07/02/13 09:23 PM 07/02/13 09:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike.. you do know that half of Moparts is living this adventure thru you.. keep up the good work LOL.... sorry for the SLOW road... I pulled one head off the W-2 this evening... all the TD rockers look like new.. the roller lifters are in great shape and the pistons and cyl walls look great(on the one side).. I'll pull the other head and the pan tomorrow.. I measured the lift on the cam.. its .030 less than the W-5 engine but thats fine... the pan on this one might get cut down.. I'll see if I want to swap pans or not... so far it looks great.. and I wont have to buy anything.. I have a set of new rings for this bore and I am pretty sure I have a set of bearings

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407905 07/03/13 08:15 PM 07/03/13 08:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I pulled the rest of the engine apart today... the bearings look like new... the cyl walls look great... I did find a couple of problems... I had a windage tray on it and it had 4 or 5 good size cracks in the metal.. no biggie there.. I wont run it... next and probably a real good thing I opened it up.. I run a KB gear drive (and do on most of my engines) but the bolt for the idler had come loose and the idler was wobbling around.. was getting close to falling off.. that would have been BAD..... then the block... I forgot that I did a half fill on it... I dont really like to run a filled block on the street... if I can find a 340 block in a few days I will change over... if not I will add a oil cooler......... So ANYONE near Detroit area have a 340 block with a stock bore OR a GOOD 4.070 bore... or even a replacement block... PM me.... time is getting short

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407906 07/03/13 11:12 PM 07/03/13 11:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,835 MI, usa	you have a PM

Re: Rampage [Re: dvw] #1407907 07/04/13 04:02 PM 07/04/13 04:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I was looking around my stash pile out in the pole barn... I found a stock bore TA 340 block... it has a little rust in the bores but I hit it with a bottle brush and took most of it out.. plus it needs to be bored to 4.070... I think I'll have it line honed just to make sure things are good.. I still need to measure the deck height of the other block and this one... so far things are looking up

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407908 07/05/13 09:38 AM 07/05/13 09:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Mike my turbo car has the block 1/2 filled and its been fine on the street. Oil temp has NEVER been over 200 even on long street drives. No oil cooler, old style pre 68 water pump, e85. I have to cool the turbo with the sane oil too!

Re: Rampage [Re: dizuster] #1407909 07/05/13 09:46 AM 07/05/13 09:46 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike my turbo car has the block 1/2 filled and its been fine on the street. Oil temp has NEVER been over 200 even on long street drives. No oil cooler, old style pre 68 water pump, e85. I have to cool the turbo with the sane oil too! Its just a quirk of mine.. I dont like the filled blocks on the street... by the way.. your dad PMed me and said he has a block for me... if I wanted it to get with you to pick it up... I'll let you know if my block wont work

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407910 07/05/13 11:22 AM 07/05/13 11:22 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,131 New Lenox IL cudadon top fuel
cudadon top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,131 New Lenox IL	Mike don't know if you checked comp on the racecar motor yet? But I remember you talking about E-85 and saying yours was 12.xx something. We were talking about E-85 / octane/comp ratios. The insides of yours and mine engines are another testimony on E-85. Good luck on your build, and the adventure that is dragweek CAR LOOKS GREAT!! Don 7766074-Cuda&Bee.JPG (32 downloads) Last edited by cudadon; 07/06/13 02:55 PM. http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p314/cudadon/BKD6_09_10_191A.jpg

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407911 07/05/13 12:29 PM 07/05/13 12:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Yup he told me you might need that block. I know right where it is, if you need it just give me a call.

Re: Rampage [Re: dizuster] #1407912 07/05/13 12:57 PM 07/05/13 12:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I just measured how far down the block filler is.. its 2.9" down at the closest point... it only varies less than .1 throughout the whole block... I'm gonna go ahead and use that filled block since its a well proven block.. I'll just freshen it up... that engine had cranking pressures between 160 and 170 max(max difference) so its going back together... I thought the fill was higher than that when just looking at it.. that puts the fill about mid cyl... I'll monitor the oil temps and if need be add a cooler... or might just add one with a fan thats on a temp switch

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407913 07/05/13 09:45 PM 07/05/13 09:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa D DusterDave top fuel
DusterDave top fuel D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa	Quote: I just measured how far down the block filler is.. its 2.9" down at the closest point... it only varies less than .1 throughout the whole block... I'm gonna go ahead and use that filled block since its a well proven block.. I'll just freshen it up... that engine had cranking pressures between 160 and 170 max(max difference) so its going back together... I thought the fill was higher than that when just looking at it.. that puts the fill about mid cyl... I'll monitor the oil temps and if need be add a cooler... or might just add one with a fan thats on a temp switch I would just go ahead and put an oil cooler with a fan in. A big cooler. If you don't, and you're sitting in an hour long backup on some highway during dragweek and its 90� outside, you'll be wishing you did. Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210

Re: Rampage [Re: DusterDave] #1407914 07/05/13 09:52 PM 07/05/13 09:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: I just measured how far down the block filler is.. its 2.9" down at the closest point... it only varies less than .1 throughout the whole block... I'm gonna go ahead and use that filled block since its a well proven block.. I'll just freshen it up... that engine had cranking pressures between 160 and 170 max(max difference) so its going back together... I thought the fill was higher than that when just looking at it.. that puts the fill about mid cyl... I'll monitor the oil temps and if need be add a cooler... or might just add one with a fan thats on a temp switch I would just go ahead and put an oil cooler with a fan in. A big cooler. If you don't, and you're sitting in an hour long backup on some highway during dragweek and its 90� outside, you'll be wishing you did. I ordered one up today.. its 13 x 15 with a fan on it.. I'll put a temp switch on it so it comes on at a set temp.. I'll also add a temp probe in the drain plug to monitor the oil temp

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407915 07/06/13 11:22 AM 07/06/13 11:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa D DusterDave top fuel
DusterDave top fuel D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa	Quote: Quote: Quote: I just measured how far down the block filler is.. its 2.9" down at the closest point... it only varies less than .1 throughout the whole block... I'm gonna go ahead and use that filled block since its a well proven block.. I'll just freshen it up... that engine had cranking pressures between 160 and 170 max(max difference) so its going back together... I thought the fill was higher than that when just looking at it.. that puts the fill about mid cyl... I'll monitor the oil temps and if need be add a cooler... or might just add one with a fan thats on a temp switch I would just go ahead and put an oil cooler with a fan in. A big cooler. If you don't, and you're sitting in an hour long backup on some highway during dragweek and its 90� outside, you'll be wishing you did. I ordered one up today.. its 13 x 15 with a fan on it.. I'll put a temp switch on it so it comes on at a set temp.. I'll also add a temp probe in the drain plug to monitor the oil temp Right on!! Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210

Re: Rampage [Re: DusterDave] #1407916 07/06/13 03:29 PM 07/06/13 03:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Cant believe my parts came in from Summit today... I ordered them last night about 5 pm and they were here at about 11 this morning... so I'm cleaning the block and all the parts... I had a couple of spots that the screen in the intake valley started to lift a bit so I am gluing them back in place with JB Weld.. so I have to wait on that to dry.. I'll pull the heads apart to check them and put new seals on... I think I'll pull the engine out of the Rampage tomorrow.. I want the oil pan off that engine to go on the new one... LOL... the Rampage is 1" lower than the race car... thought things looked close under the Rampage

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407917 07/06/13 03:41 PM 07/06/13 03:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio M mcat4321 master
mcat4321 master M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,101 cincinnati ohio	i am no purist by any means.. but those T/A blocks are very desirable by the guys restoring those cars.. there are lots of non desirable 340/360 blocks for race applications...1 T/A = 3-4 non t/a blocks

Re: Rampage [Re: mcat4321] #1407918 07/06/13 03:48 PM 07/06/13 03:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: i am no purist by any means.. but those T/A blocks are very desirable by the guys restoring those cars.. there are lots of non desirable 340/360 blocks for race applications...1 T/A = 3-4 non t/a blocks Yeah I know.. but thats not why I bought it.. I got it pretty cheap because it broke a rod and has a small chip in the bottom of one cyl... no more than a rod clearance notch.. but they are stronger than a stock block so I held onto it to use some day

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