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Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? #1405362 03/20/13 01:08 PM 03/20/13 01:08 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Hello, I am checking to gauge the interest of making a recast run of A body M code exhaust manifolds for A body darts and cudas. If you guys are familiar with these you know how hard the driver's side manifold is to get and we are checking interest to see how many people would be interested in getting a recast driver's side manifold to see if it would even be feasible to make the tooling for a small run of 10 or so. It would be recast from a low low miles original I have. Please let me know if anyone has any interest in one as the price point would be in the $1200 range. Thanks 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405363 03/20/13 01:30 PM 03/20/13 01:30 PM
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kidmopar master Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,839 New State	How about the "Max Wedge" Tri-Y manifolds?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405364 03/20/13 01:36 PM 03/20/13 01:36 PM
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A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,780 N.E. OHIO, USA	I'd be interested in one for my M-Code Dart....$1200 but what to do?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405365 03/20/13 01:45 PM 03/20/13 01:45 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,353 A gulag near you.	Would making a bigger run bring down the cost ?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: JohnRR] #1405366 03/20/13 01:49 PM 03/20/13 01:49 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Quote: Would making a bigger run bring down the cost ? yeah it would but I do not know if there would be enough demand. The more they could sell the cheaper they could be. 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: kidmopar] #1405367 03/20/13 02:14 PM 03/20/13 02:14 PM
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hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,367 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	How about the "Max Wedge" Tri-Y manifolds? Scott Smith, here on Moparts, once thought about getting those repoped. But he needed a set to have the patterns made off of. Nobody came forward with a pair to have copied. Too rare of an item to find. Not enough of a demand to justify the cost in getting them repoped. At one time, i owned just the left side of one of those Tri Y manifold sets. Last edited by hemi71x; 03/20/13 02:16 PM.

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: hemi71x] #1405368 03/20/13 02:21 PM 03/20/13 02:21 PM
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viperakron super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	I need a drivers side. That price is a third of what I've found for sale! .

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: hemi71x] #1405369 03/20/13 02:53 PM 03/20/13 02:53 PM
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HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: How about the "Max Wedge" Tri-Y manifolds? Scott Smith, here on Moparts, once thought about getting those repoped. But he needed a set to have the patterns made off of. Nobody came forward with a pair to have copied. Too rare of an item to find. Not enough of a demand to justify the cost in getting them repoped. At one time, i owned just the left side of one of those Tri Y manifold sets. AS cool as those were, I just cant see enough of a demand to make them. MB

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405370 03/20/13 03:11 PM 03/20/13 03:11 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,353 A gulag near you.	Quote: Quote: Would making a bigger run bring down the cost ? yeah it would but I do not know if there would be enough demand. The more they could sell the cheaper they could be. I think you could sell more than 10 ? How many would it take to get the price down to say $750 ?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: JohnRR] #1405371 03/20/13 03:18 PM 03/20/13 03:18 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Quote: Quote: Quote: Would making a bigger run bring down the cost ? yeah it would but I do not know if there would be enough demand. The more they could sell the cheaper they could be. I think you could sell more than 10 ? How many would it take to get the price down to say $750 ? from what I was told they might not go that low as the casting and finishing cost alone is close to $600 as they are such a hard design. The bonus on them is that the insides are actual cleaned out by hand which allows them to get the manifold to flow better than the original did, they will still flow badly as the design is not good but they should flow a little better. I am not the one doing the run they are just using my core but I would say they will probably have to keep them up close to $1000 but if there was enough demand who knows as it is the tooling cost he needs to offset and that is not cheap!! 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405372 03/20/13 03:27 PM 03/20/13 03:27 PM
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viperakron super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	Looking in the past this was done for street hemi and max wedge manifolds. The quality was better than OEM and the price became afforable. Only issue with some purists was the casting dates. If I'm correct there is only one casting date for the M code and it was in late 1968, so every one of these should be correct?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: viperakron] #1405373 03/20/13 03:51 PM 03/20/13 03:51 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Quote: Looking in the past this was done for street hemi and max wedge manifolds. The quality was better than OEM and the price became afforable. Only issue with some purists was the casting dates. If I'm correct there is only one casting date for the M code and it was in late 1968, so every one of these should be correct? yeah the casting date on mine is 12-10-68 for the core 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405374 03/20/13 04:32 PM 03/20/13 04:32 PM
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viperakron super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	Then lets see who is in and get a count. Maybe send a deposit for a place in line?

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: viperakron] #1405375 03/20/13 05:31 PM 03/20/13 05:31 PM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	What is the time frame? I could be in for one.

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: viperakron] #1405376 03/20/13 05:42 PM 03/20/13 05:42 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Quote: Then lets see who is in and get a count. Maybe send a deposit for a place in line? If anyone is interested pm me and I will let the person know who is doing the recast. I am not sure of the timeframe but it would be soon as I would send my core and he said he just needed that for a couple months so I would assume they would not be too far out. Thanks 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405377 03/20/13 06:54 PM 03/20/13 06:54 PM
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vette1986 OP pro stock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,347 Wahoo Nebr	Quote: Quote: Then lets see who is in and get a count. Maybe send a deposit for a place in line? If anyone is interested pm me and I will let the person know who is doing the recast. I am not sure of the timeframe but it would be soon as I would send my core and he said he just needed that for a couple months so I would assume they would not be too far out. Thanks I just got in touch with the person looking to do the run and it looks like we need to get at least 12 manifolds spoken for with a deposit to make sure the person is a serious buyer to be able to tool up for the run. I think there are enough guys out there that are minus their manifolds and don't want to shell out the $3-$4K for an original manifold even if you can find one. The time frame would depend on the vendor and it would be in their hands on how fast they can get them done but it should not be a real long process but I just don't want to make promises we can not have control over but it should be in the months range if all goes well. Last edited by vette1986; 03/20/13 06:55 PM. 1969.5 A12 Bee EV2 1971 Charger RT 1973 Duster tubbed 500 low deck 10.90 monster 3 440 polara vert projects

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: vette1986] #1405378 03/20/13 07:07 PM 03/20/13 07:07 PM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	With all due respect,I'm not sure I'd be comfortable sending a deposit on something that hasn't even been made yet or even attempted to be made. I sure would want to eye ball anything that cost me 1200 bucks. I took a drivers side A body manifold to my local foundry a few years ago... And they told me how complicated it would be to make. The outside isn't the problem it's the inside...and that is pretty important to me. That said, I could be interested if I could see one.

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: scatpacktom] #1405379 03/20/13 09:33 PM 03/20/13 09:33 PM
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viperakron super stock V Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 833 Ohio	No business man is going to make these on the whim of potential sales. Hell they only made 1000 cars, it's not a chevy item. All interested need to be comfortable with the vendor and commit to the final product. IE do it on a credit card with protection for non delivery. It's a unique item, not a mass production piece available somewhere else. If working with people on the "inside" makes your car more valueable for a fraction of the cost of availble parts, I guess I'd say do some research. If you wait for them to show up at Year One I doubt it will happen.

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: HPMike] #1405380 03/20/13 09:55 PM 03/20/13 09:55 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How about the "Max Wedge" Tri-Y manifolds? Scott Smith, here on Moparts, once thought about getting those repoped. But he needed a set to have the patterns made off of. Nobody came forward with a pair to have copied. Too rare of an item to find. Not enough of a demand to justify the cost in getting them repoped. At one time, i owned just the left side of one of those Tri Y manifold sets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AS cool as those were, I just cant see enough of a demand to make them. MB Either way, if I could get a set loaned to me I'd get them made anyway

Re: Interest in M code exhaust manifold A body?? [Re: scatpacktom] #1405381 03/20/13 10:12 PM 03/20/13 10:12 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,555 Las Vegas, NV	No casting/pricing experience & no M-code A-body in this fight, but there are a number of reproduction exhaust manifolds made for the collector car market (and I understand the much larger quantity of the others brings their price lower). Initially the need for 10 buyers was mentioned, $1200 each (& recently the $600 cast & finish cost per piece) and I believe & understand there is profit in there for whomever is partaking/funding the venture. So where is the total price coming from? It doesn't take many more pieces to get it below $1000 each. $12K total $3,000 tooling & $9,000 (10 X $900) = $1200 each $12K total $4,500 tooling & $7,500 (10 X $750) = $1200 each $12K total $6,000 tooling & $6,000 (10 X $600) = $1200 each $21K total $3,000 tooling & $18,000 (20 X $900) = $1050 each $19.5K total $4,500 tooling & $15,000 (20 X $750) = $975 each $18K total $6,000 tooling & $12,000 (20 X $600) = $900 each $39K total $3,000 tooling & $36,000 (40 X $900) = $975 each $34.5K total $4,500 tooling & $30,000 (40 X $750) = $867.50 each $30K total $6,000 tooling & $24,000 (40 X $600) = $750 each If someone goes thru the motions to make this happen, inventory needs to sit on a shelf somewhere, if you find 10 buyers this month & produce these manifolds, is buyer number 11 that hears about this in May '13 S-O-L?

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