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Best intake for a 440 #1400965
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I am sure this has been asked many times, but I would like to ask what is thought when paired with my engine.

The specs:
440 .030 over
forged crank
stock rods
speedpro forged pistons 2295f (.140 dome)
down .055 in the hole
86 CC heads with pocket porting 2.14/1.88 valves
Comp XE285HL cam

We figured that it would be roughly 10.2:1 compression the cam is a .545 lift hydraulic. I had a few people recommend using either a Victor intake or a M1 intake. Does anybody have any recommendations on either of those or of any better intakes for this combo?

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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400966
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Do you race the car,or street drive it? A performer RPM is a good street/ strip intake for that combination . If your car is light,has a lot of gear,etc. I would use the Victor style.
Probably be more help with a better description of thwarted car and its use
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Do you race the car,or street drive it? A performer RPM is a good street/ strip intake for that combination . If your car is light,has a lot of gear,etc. I would use the Victor style.
Probably be more help with a better description of thwarted car and its use
Keith





I agree. The Holley Street Dominator may also work good with it depending on the weight , gear and so on. Ron

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: 383man] #1400968
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I suppose that would help. its in a 74 dodge charger. and has a 3.55 SG but i will be swapping that out with a 4.10 soon here. The car is a street/strip car, and is quite portly at around 4k pounds.

I also do have a old Weiand 7500 intake here if you think that may work for my combo.

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I suppose that would help. its in a 74 dodge charger. and has a 3.55 SG but i will be swapping that out with a 4.10 soon here. The car is a street/strip car, and is quite portly at around 4k pounds.

I also do have a old Weiand 7500 intake here if you think that may work for my combo.





I would go with the Eddy Performer RPM on your combo. Just make sure it will fit under your hood if you do. Ron

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400970
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HELLO WE NEED MORE INFO SO WE CAN HELP YOU, WHAT HEADS IRON OR ALUM, HEADERS OR STOCK EXHAUST, YOUR SRALL, WHAT REAR GEAR RATIO,WHAT CARBURETOR, A DUAL PLANE WILL HELP YOUR LOW IN TORQUE ,A SINGLE PLANE WILL HELP YOUR TOP IN TORQUE. MORE INFO PLEASE

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the heads are 452 stock heads with some porting porting and 2.14/1.81 valves. I have HP exhaust manifolds with 3" exhaust. 2800 stall converter. the rear end has a 3.55 SG in it now but i will be changing to a 4.10. the carb I have is a eddy eps 800 cfm

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400972
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RPM or S/D. or you could go for a nice 3x2....


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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1400973
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RPM or S/D. or you could go for a nice 3x2....





with ya!!
If you plug in your car weight/converter stall/carb size/cam factors:
S/D - Moderate Street/Strip (Great all-around performance, especially with a TQ)
RPM- Sharper Street Performance Good basic Strip manifold.
Six pack - Great Street/Strip setup, added airflow
accomodates bigger hydraulics and small solids. Just have to "dial-in" the jets and secondary barrel(s) timing.



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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1400974
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RPM or S/D. or you could go for a nice 3x2....




Yea forgot about the 6pk setup as that would work nice with the right tune on it. Ron

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: 383man] #1400975
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What about the edelbrock low rise dual four barrel set ups? the 6 pack setup is abit too pricy for what I have seen.

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400976
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I had the old Edelbrock TM7 intake on my 440, stock heads, 10.5 compression. put on the Victor and it slowed the car down .15 in the quarter. I changed back and picked it back up. To big of a intake for the engine I had.



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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400977
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I don't like the xe285hl cam. Have one in my 440 with 10.6 compression, aluminum heads, and aluminum single plane intake. Installed at comps specs (106 icl) it's done at 5400 rpm. The comp valve train will allow it to rev up above 6 without valve float. I suppose if you retarded the cam timing a couple of degrees you could raise the peak hp rpm number. My engine on the demo made 500 ft lbs of torque from 3900-4800 and 475 peak hp at 5400. It's also going into a 72 charger.

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: HYPER8oSoNic] #1400978
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RPM or S/D. or you could go for a nice 3x2....





with ya!!
If you plug in your car weight/converter stall/carb size/cam factors:
S/D - Moderate Street/Strip (Great all-around performance, especially with a TQ)
RPM- Sharper Street Performance Good basic Strip manifold.
Six pack - Great Street/Strip setup, added airflow
accomodates bigger hydraulics and small solids. Just have to "dial-in" the jets and secondary barrel(s) timing.







RPM- Sharper Street Performance Good basic Strip manifold, add a 950 holley and look out

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: Torred] #1400979
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So, how about an Indy dual plane 1x4? Not enough engine for it? Is the Indy part over-hyped? Don't want a political discussion on Indy, just throwin it out there.

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So, how about an Indy dual plane 1x4? Not enough engine for it? Is the Indy part over-hyped? Don't want a political discussion on Indy, just throwin it out there.




I was wondering the same. I read somewhere it out flows the edelbrock. The thing with the Indy that scares me away is the price. But I suppose you do get what ya pay for.

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So, how about an Indy dual plane 1x4? Not enough engine for it? Is the Indy part over-hyped? Don't want a political discussion on Indy, just throwin it out there.


Does Indy make that manifold in 440 port sizes? I was told they don't OP, go get the Eddy Performer RPM intake and 850 CFM or Bigger Holley doulble pumper, you won't be sorry As far as the Eddy dual four intake with dual Eddy or Carter carbs they aren't as responsive or as nice to drive as the single carb is on a good intake like the Eddy Performer RPM are

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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: moparguy] #1400982
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Since you have a low stall conv... being that way
you need to make all the torque you can make at a
low RPM to move the weight.... go with the RPM...
your cam wont support high rpm anyways so think low
rpm.... also being that its mostly street I would keep
the 3.55 in it for a while to check out the engine
changes... then if you want change the gear

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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1400983
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Eddy performer RPM ..no question !!

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Does Indy make that manifold in 440 port sizes? I was told they don't




The 440 port size is the only size they make.

Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: BSB67] #1400985
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The indy dual plane is a Max wedge manifold with big MW plenum chambers but (as delivered) the runners are tapered down to 440 size ports, they are very easy to open up if you go max wedge and will support a 700+ HP motor.

The SD used to be my favorite 440 street/strip manifold and it is a great "default" 500" stroker manifold in cases where a dual plane could give you more torque than you can put to the ground. But the 440 2-D is now because it's the most versitile and will produce broader and higher average torque up to ~700 hp than any single plane with an Automatic and moderate street gears/stall. The Performer RPM is a great piece but it is more limited internally in terms of how much you can port it, the 2-D does everything an RPM can do and has potential (room to grow) to do more.

Allegedly the 2D is based on the 426 Max Wedge NASCAR intake, In well-ported form it pulls up past 6800 on a 12:1 517" low deck motor with some of the very best flowing MW heads out there, Chapman Stage VI maxies.

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Re: Best intake for a 440 [Re: Streetwize] #1400986
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Aren't there a lot of people that make the case for the Weiand tunnel ram being the best intake for a 440?

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The indy dual plane is a Max wedge manifold with big MW plenum chambers but (as delivered) the runners are tapered down to 440 size ports, they are very easy to open up if you go max wedge and will support a 700+ HP motor.

The SD used to be my favorite 440 street/strip manifold and it is a great "default" 500" stroker manifold in cases where a dual plane could give you more torque than you can put to the ground. But the 440 2-D is now because it's the most versitile and will produce broader and higher average torque up to ~700 hp than any single plane with an Automatic and moderate street gears/stall. The Performer RPM is a great piece but it is more limited internally in terms of how much you can port it, the 2-D does everything an RPM can do and has potential (room to grow) to do more.

Allegedly the 2D is based on the 426 Max Wedge NASCAR intake, In well-ported form it pulls up past 6800 on a 12:1 517" low deck motor with some of the very best flowing MW heads out there, Chapman Stage VI maxies.





This man knows what he is talking about.
I use the Indy Dual plane and Dwayne Porter told me the same thing as Streetwize said. It comes with Max Wedge runners that size down to standard ports. But all you have to do is open the ports to max wedge size maybe a 1/2" deep and you have a max wedge ports and runners sizes. Dwayne reccomnded the Indy dual plane for me and so far I love it. But on a stock 440 with basic heads it may not be needed as the RPM should handle that. A stroker with some heads that flow should like the Indy dual plane better. Ron

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Yep, the tunnel ram is best, but too many people are afraid of tuning 2 carbs even though in reality it's easy.


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Nothing wrong with a TR and yeah they're fairly easy to tune, it's more just the "Oh yeah, I got to cut a hole in the hood" thing I'll bet

And if I'm gonna go through the trouble to cut a hole in the hood....it's probably gonna be for a blower

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Yep, the tunnel ram is best, but too many people are afraid of tuning 2 carbs even though in reality it's easy.




I agree the tunnel ram makes great power but no way would I ever cut a hole in the hood of my 63 to run a tunnel ram. Now my brother runs a tunnel ram on his 64 and he likes it alot but he uses the 64 Hemi scoop thats way taller then the stock one as his looks to be about a 5" scoop to fit the tunnel ram under it. But I dont care so much for the taller then stock Max Wedge and Hemi scoops so what I use needs to fit under my stock max wedge scoop. Here is my brothers 64 with the tunnel ram and scoop. I am just not a big fan of the taller scoops like his. Just dont tell my brother ! Ron


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Well said. &. Hands down this mans best choice in intakes.

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