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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
[Re: 1MYTGTX]
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03/05/13 09:48 PM
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If you are patient, you can find some that arent crazy. IT took several years, but I have "only" 1100 in the set of these for my Challenger.....It does take time. Some people still dont know...My buddy just sold one for 100. And he is pretty experienced..I was shocked. I would have bought it for that much..
Great pic Mike! 
Thanks 
Credit to Dave Verna for that...
What I find so amazing is that after all these years, who would have thought that one of the most coveted wheels are these "throw away" steelies?...They do have the look though... 
Here is a story some of you might enjoy regarding 450's. And its 100% true.
Guy walks into my shop on a lazy summer saturday. I was just finishing up. He notices some old Mopars around and proceeds to tell me thet he has had an old rim and tire in his garage from the 70's. Said it belonged to a friend who moved away years ago, it was for his Charger. He was going to throw it away but thought I might want it. Figuring it was some old junk I almost told him to just chuck it, but he lived nearby so I said id come and take a look at it. This is what he had  ...Yep, an absolutely BRAND NEW spare take out out of a 71 B Body. Almost perfect, never mounted, day 1 condition. Yes I bought it, I am too embarrassed to say what I paid for it.
Makes up for all the times I OVERPAID for junk that wasnt what it was supposed to be I guess. 
MB
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
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03/06/13 08:36 PM
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So between us we have a set...Wonder what that is worth?
Who's sellin'? I'm buyin'
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
[Re: scatpacktom]
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03/07/13 11:53 AM
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So between us we have a set...Wonder what that is worth?
Who's sellin'? I'm buyin'
Sold that one already. I needed the rim, but didnt want to break it up.
Still need two more 450's for my 70 sixpack R/T. If I dont sell it. 
MB
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
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03/07/13 03:06 PM
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so,embarressingly, exactly what makes it a 450? i have a set of steelies,that dog dish caps fit on,i bought them to have painted body color,just because i like the look, so anybody want to share how to tell 450 from regular steel wheels? 
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
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compare the pic of red wheel posted above with HPMike's pic of a 450. The 450s (and 15" Rallyes) used a 14 inch center. The outer ring has a pretty noticeable step that makes up for the difference in diameter. Steel wheels and dog dishes look pretty cool regardless. Its one of the detail things. BTW, the best 450 wheel story I have is junkyarding with a couple friends. It was an old-school junk yard about 4 years ago. We were walking in and my friend spots a polyglas tire and rim laying face down in the mud. He flips it over to see what's there and it was a G60 with a very nice 450 wheel. He got it for $20 if memory serves. It killed me not to have seen it first  We found a couple of nice 69 H-wheels there as well.
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
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03/08/13 05:44 AM
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Basicly they are a 15x7 rallye wheel rim with a regular 14 inch steel wheel center. 14 and 15 inch rallye wheels have the same center.
I was under this impression also....
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Re: 15x7 steel wheels
[Re: HPMike]
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03/08/13 07:43 AM
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None of these look like 450's though.
Sheldon
As far as I know there is nothing on the market new that looks like 450 wheels. Been down that road not too long ago. Your only options for something that looks the part are either buy the real thing $$$$$ (or the 71 version $$$$$$ too), or have them made. I took centers from 70 14" rims (common) and put them in Olds 15 x 7 outers after cutting the olds centers out. That is the only way I know of to make them appear correct and not spend the $$$$ on the real thing. I believe you can use Olds Rallys, some Buick Rallys, or some AMC rims. They are the only ones that have the correct drop down to accept the 14" center and appear correct. I have the advantage of owning a machine shop so it was a no brainer for me. I would do a search here as there are others that have been down this road.
Scott
If you are patient, you can find some that arent crazy. IT took several years, but I have "only" 1100 in the set of these for my Challenger.....It does take time. Some people still dont know...My buddy just sold one for 100. And he is pretty experienced..I was shocked. I would have bought it for that much..
In 20 years (okay... lets say 17 as i haven't really bothered much in the last 3) ov flipping though rim piles, looking under cars, looking ON cars, digging though hoarder-asylums, hell... even looking at welded rim-jackstands in the junkyards... i have not once, ever... seen a real 450 rim. I've spent more time around wheels and tires than almost anyone here... I've put out want ads, pictures, i have a LOT ov hotrod punk friends that do the same... Not one in 20 years.... that wasn't on some car at a show anyways.
I've come across 15x8" Ramcharger steelies, tons ov 15x7" rallyes, 15x6" A12 rims, 14x7"? A-body rims (told these were rare?), hell... even the odd Kelsey Hayes aluminum (recalled) rim. Never seen a 450.
I'd love to have them on my car, but i'm not paying idiotic prices for them. Its unfortunate that the other types ov steelies really dont look all that close to the 450... i can spot one a mile away. Makes me wanna just put some mags on my car instead... the 'cheap' (later) 15x7's i have just dont quite look right.
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