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'70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) #1392153
02/22/13 05:49 PM
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What were the factory finishes on these components (Trunk Latch and Striker; Hood Latch, Lever and Striker)? Obviously they weren't body color painted like mine are (stupidly done by the prior owner). Didn't he realize that the paint would quickly scrape off with just a few openings and closings of the hood/trunk? I'd like to strip the paint off the appropriate pieces and have them re-plated (if that's how they were from the factory). Which parts/sections were body color painted? Was it only the hood latch assembly's vertical support? Thanks for your help.













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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: filmsurgeon] #1392154
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I believe someone is restoring them. The trunk latch I think was zinc plated and the actual striker for the trunk was I think painted body color. As for the hood latch, I think that was gray phosphate as well as the hood release.

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: ] #1392155
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Jules the Wiperman is doing them all. Like anything Jules does, the results are amazing.

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: hemi_rtdave] #1392156
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Jules the Wiperman is doing them all. Like anything Jules does, the results are amazing.




You need to get hold of Jules to get yours redone.

The trunk latch is plated clear zinc but must be disassembled for plating.

The trunk striker is the same but on MOST cars it's painted.

The hood items are plated a brown colored plating that I do not know exactly what it is, but not all the parts - that's why you need my man Jules

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: Morty426] #1392157
02/23/13 05:59 AM
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Jules the Wiperman is doing them all. Like anything Jules does, the results are amazing.




You need to get hold of Jules to get yours redone.

The trunk latch is plated clear zinc but must be disassembled for plating.

The trunk striker is the same but on MOST cars it's painted.

The hood items are plated a brown colored plating that I do not know exactly what it is, but not all the parts - that's why you need my man Jules




I'm almost positive that the restored wiper motor I bought about 6 years ago was one of Jules'. The workmanship is impecable. Unfortunately, right now I cannot afford to have him restore these parts. I am on a very limited budget, and am trying to do as much of the work myself (allocating whatever limited funds I have to things I can't do myself or items I need to purchase). I want to do what I can to get the latch components looking as close to how they were originally without incurring too much expense. I can strip the paint off the things that weren't painted at the factory, and clean/polish them. I have some connections locally for plating, and can probably get that done fairly cheap (provided I disassemble/reassemble the latches). I assume that the vertical support brace for the hood latch assembly was body color painted at the factory, but what about the top plate? Was it also body color painted at the factory, or was it plated? I'd like to do something that prevents the paint from scratching off where the hook lever is received. What about powder coating? Was there originally some kind of an insert to prevent metal on metal contact? Also, how was the hook lever finished? Was it originally painted body color, or plated? I found this listing on ebay. The seller claims the hood latch has the original plating. Thanks for your help.

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: filmsurgeon] #1392158
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Joseph,
I understand your budget situation so it will strongly depend on what results you want in the end.
You simply cannot plate the parts as a whole and expect to achieve close to factory because several components
had different finishes.Secondly when you say you will disassemble them, you will run into the the issue of
not having the correct special rivets they used for assembly.These rivets and washers are not sold anywhere.
Check out some pictures.
Jules

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392159
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The above picture shows the different finishes used on over the counter NOS parts.
Factory assembly line latches were different.

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392160
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You had a lot more brown finish applied.
Look at what happens when you send in a latch for plating and
you do not take it apart. This part was sent to me from a client that wanted it done right.

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392161
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Springs do not like to be plated without going through an oven bake afterwards so
be careful, they may break after plating if not done right.

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392162
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Call me for a quote.
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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392163
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You had a lot more brown finish applied.
Look at what happens when you send in a latch for plating and
you do not take it apart. This part was sent to me from a client that wanted it done right.




Your client got lucky. I've seen where that round part that the key lever goes through get destroyed in plating

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: filmsurgeon] #1392164
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Though it's not going to give you OEM gold judging standards results, Eastwood's Zinc Phosphate paint gives a close to correct appearance for hood safety catch and latch components, and I've found it to be pretty resistant to scratching and chipping.

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392165
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Joseph,
I understand your budget situation so it will strongly depend on what results you want in the end.
You simply cannot plate the parts as a whole and expect to achieve close to factory because several components
had different finishes.Secondly when you say you will disassemble them, you will run into the the issue of
not having the correct special rivets they used for assembly.These rivets and washers are not sold anywhere.
Check out some pictures.
Jules





Jules, So the one in the picture is "over the counter" NOS?

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: 71redcuda] #1392166
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I will say yes.
You will notice that there is no date code stamped on the left hand side bolt area.
See sample picture below.
Jules

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392167
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NOS sample

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392168
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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: Mastershake340] #1392169
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With all due respect Brad, how does zinc phosphate give "a close to correct appearance" to brown dichromate zinc finish?

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Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #1392170
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only if your color blind...

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I guess I should have said "closer to original appearance than 90+% of the Mopars you see at shows and cruises".
Again, if you are restoring a car to national show standards, than you have little choice but to either beat the bushes for NOS parts or feel fortunate that there are a few artisans like Jules who can restore them to perfection for you.
But for a car being built for local shows and cruises, and you don't have 6 figures to invest in your ride, you are fortunate that companies like Eastwood sell an inexpensive product that looks close enough to original that your components look better than the 65-75% of the other Mopars out there that have had these components either painted body color or spray bombed silver etc.
There are guys I see around here locally at cruises who belittle us Mopar guys (some of whom are Mopar guys even)constantly about how anal we get about things on our cars. Seriously, if they heard about this discussion about whether a product is "brown enough" to satisfy the 30-50 people in North America who have the expertise about what finish is perfect for a hood catch, I'd never hear the end of it and have to stay home and never take my cars out! Chicago area guys, please, I beg you, don't share this thread with the area cruise and show crowd, I don't want to spend this summer hiding in my garage from their laughter!

Re: '70 Challenger (Hood / Trunk Latch, Lever, Striker) [Re: Mastershake340] #1392172
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But for a car being built for local shows and cruises, and you don't have 6 figures to invest in your ride, you are fortunate that companies like Eastwood sell an inexpensive product that looks close enough to original that your components look better than the 65-75% of the other Mopars out there that have had these components either painted body color or spray bombed silver etc.




I am in this category. I would kill for a FULLY RESTORED, nearly 100% factory correct '70 Challenger Convertible, but the one I have now will likely be the only one I ever have, unless I win the lottery. At the moment, I am on a tight and limited budget, and right now I'm doing what I can to make the car "better", and me happier. Hopefully, there will be better financial times in the future that will allow me to do more "correct" things for the car. It is far from being fully restored (done by the previous owner in 2003), but it certainly is a nice car, and there are good and bad things about the way it was done (IMO). It's a resto-mod, and I'm not about to reverse the "mods", because there's A LOT of them. At this point, I'm just looking to correct some of the bad decisions/choices that the prior owner made. Granted, back in 2003, there was nowhere near the plethora of restoration parts and services that are now "fortunately" available. I sincerely appreciate the members' help on this "message board" site, and the valuable information I gain from them. Without this site (and similar Mopar forum sites), I'd be lost. Thanks again.

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