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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1387604
02/17/13 12:00 PM
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I have followed threads on Hemi rockers on here for some time now. There are a lot of guys that have said here that they have run the stock rockers for years with good success. And certainly, there are good reviews for T&D, DLI, Stage V and the like.

But there seems to be a lot of bad experiences for other brands of Hemi rockers. It almost seems that it is either best to run stockers, within reason, or go to the top ranks of rockers.

How do the newer MP stock replacements stack up? Are they up to the standards that their OE counterparts?


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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: DaveRS23] #1387605
02/17/13 01:24 PM
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stock narrow or wide will do the trick with a cam lift under .750
at one time 9500 rpm was the norm for them


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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: 572charger] #1387606
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what about norris rockers?

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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: coronetville] #1387607
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what about norris rockers?




my experience they were the worse I ever had. When checked the intake ratio was only 1.42


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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: HEMIFRED] #1387608
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Sometimes this forum can be a really big help, and money saver, thanks,was on the verge of buying some

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1387609
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The stock rockers work great but when you start checking ratios on each rocker you quickly find that they are all over the place. I sent mine to Tim Banning to be corrected, he called me and asked where I'd gotten them as they were really bad. He was nice enough to dig up a set of wide pad old pro stock rockers and rebuild them for me. Dave

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: quickd100] #1387610
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So on a build where the stock rockers would be OK, how does a guy check the ratio ?

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: nz383man] #1387611
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So on a build where the stock rockers would be OK, how does a guy check the ratio ?




You have to mock it up with light checker springs. Install the cam and one intake and exhaust lifter, checker springs on said cylinder. Set the it at zero lash and using a dial indicator record maximum lifts go back to your cam card or using a dial indicator measure total lobe lift at the cam. Divide the maximum valve lift by the maximum lobe lift the product is your rocker ratio. You'll have to do this for each rocker arm. Dave

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: quickd100] #1387612
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Thanks Dave.

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: nz383man] #1387613
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I use to check one set of rocker arms at a time on one bank, make sure the lift at the lobes are all the same and like already said use checking springs I was terribly shocked on how bad the stock rockers vary on the ratio I saw right at .130 differences at the retainers in lift between rocker arms on the same cam

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Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: Cab_Burge] #1387614
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Cab you are so right. It can turn a normal guy into a tear streaked raving lunatic. Other than living with it the only options using stock rockers are to send them out for correction,(they can make them better but not perfect) or find a way to dig through and check dozens of individual rockers.
Mine were redone and I bought another complete set from a member here. I checked them all and used the best of them to make a set. Here are the ratios I ended up with;
on the intake 1.69, 1.63, 1.66, 1.66,1.67,1.66,1.65,1.63
the exhausts, 1.53,1.52,1.51,1.49,1.51,1.52,1.53,1.50
The net differences in lift on mine are only .026 on the intake and .017 on the exhaust, I can live with that. It still bothers me but it's much better than most.Dave

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: quickd100] #1387615
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Where are we sending them these days? I know RAS had some problems lately. Tim Banning?

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: scatpacktom] #1387616
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Where are we sending them these days? I know RAS had some problems lately. Tim Banning?




Tim did mine but that was 4-5 years ago now. Dave

Re: Hemi rocker arms [Re: Hooligan] #1387617
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here. Jesel 8000-8200 rpm and no issues

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