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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/16/13 01:49 PM
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Trivia: 1st 383/RB stroker was the "Dragmaster Dart" dragster engine, built 1962 with 413 crank... because there was no 426 block yet.
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/19/13 12:34 AM
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None this answer my questions. Its going off in a totally different direction. My 383 is all ready, that's the block I'm building. I'm either going to put it back stock stroke or 440 stroke. Who out there has a 431-438?
I have a 383 in my car. Very mild with stage IV heads and it really works well and im suprised at how much torque this thing makes. Starts and runs and has no attitude. This little motor has broken lots of drivetrain parts behind it and after 5 years of running constant 7500+rpm shifts , it remains in good condition with very minimal maintenance. Its not trying to push off the main caps , doesn't need a girdle and still runs hard. Has run best of 9.86 at 135.60 in a 3100 lb car through mufflers.
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/20/13 10:51 AM
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Does Dogdays work for Mancini?? The result of my reading this thread this morning is that I am now holding an order confirmation for a set of Diamond pistons that I had no idea I needed when I woke up this morning! They will go great with this set of Manley rods that have been riding the shelf for 3 years though!
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/20/13 11:19 AM
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Does Dogdays work for Mancini?? The result of my reading this thread this morning is that I am now holding an order confirmation for a set of Diamond pistons that I had no idea I needed when I woke up this morning! They will go great with this set of Manley rods that have been riding the shelf for 3 years though!
No he doesn't  I have bought at least one set of those pistons from mancini , I might be due for another 
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/21/13 11:48 AM
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Thanks guys! Sorry my original post was sorta vague. I am looking to get my Belvedere into the 10s without adding a ton of low end. My 500ci I built a few years back was the ticket if the track absolutely perfect. But if not it would blow the tires off and go no where. I bent 2 rears and switched back to my 12.0 383. Now that's it's time to rebuild the 383, my engine guy purposed the 440 crank to help move the heavy 3800 lbs Belvedere. I was wondering how many people are using this and how durable they are? Also what for Ets, 60 foots, stall of converter, etc? Things along those lines. Id love to see the car go 10.50 but if it goes 11 flat and doesn't spin I'd be happy. Just looking consistency and a reliable piece to bracket race. I want to stay with 383 because the block is perfect and the added cost of starting with a new block.
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II 383
1968 Plymouth Barracuda 383
2005 Ram 3500 5.9Diesel
1979 Dodge Power Wagon 360
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/21/13 12:03 PM
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Great motor, same bore and stroke as a 426 hemi or stage III Maxie, what could be wrong with that?
Built my first one close to 30 yrs ago. was Easier to build than a 400/451 back then cause you could use a modified shelf 454 Chevy truck piston on a .990 bushed rod.
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/21/13 01:00 PM
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Thanks guys! Sorry my original post was sorta vague. I am looking to get my Belvedere into the 10s without adding a ton of low end. My 500ci I built a few years back was the ticket if the track absolutely perfect. But if not it would blow the tires off and go no where. I bent 2 rears and switched back to my 12.0 383. Now that's it's time to rebuild the 383, my engine guy purposed the 440 crank to help move the heavy 3800 lbs Belvedere. I was wondering how many people are using this and how durable they are? Also what for Ets, 60 foots, stall of converter, etc? Things along those lines. Id love to see the car go 10.50 but if it goes 11 flat and doesn't spin I'd be happy. Just looking consistency and a reliable piece to bracket race. I want to stay with 383 because the block is perfect and the added cost of starting with a new block.
I think it would have been cheaper in the long run
to have made your car hook with the 500" instead of
making less power... more than likely a set of good
shocks and maybe looking at the leaf springs.... JMO
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
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02/21/13 06:51 PM
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Thanks guys! Sorry my original post was sorta vague. I am looking to get my Belvedere into the 10s without adding a ton of low end. My 500ci I built a few years back was the ticket if the track absolutely perfect. But if not it would blow the tires off and go no where. I bent 2 rears and switched back to my 12.0 383. Now that's it's time to rebuild the 383, my engine guy purposed the 440 crank to help move the heavy 3800 lbs Belvedere. I was wondering how many people are using this and how durable they are? Also what for Ets, 60 foots, stall of converter, etc? Things along those lines. Id love to see the car go 10.50 but if it goes 11 flat and doesn't spin I'd be happy. Just looking consistency and a reliable piece to bracket race. I want to stay with 383 because the block is perfect and the added cost of starting with a new block.
I think it would have been cheaper in the long run
to have made your car hook with the 500" instead of
making less power... more than likely a set of good
shocks and maybe looking at the leaf springs.... JMO
that would be too easy , wheres the fun in that ?
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opi
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02/21/13 09:07 PM
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Great motor, same bore and stroke as a 426 hemi or stage III Maxie, what could be wrong with that?
You lost me here.
If the bore and stroke are the same would you not have a 426 or are you getting a difference in cubes from the piston size? 
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Re: 440 stroke in a 383. Good idea? Post your combo/opinion
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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02/22/13 01:24 PM
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No I'm not looking for the cheap way out. I have another car i building for the 500. The thought has crossed my mind but then I would need to build another engine when that car is finished. I Orginally just wanted to put rings, bearing and stealth heads on and race it but this idea came about.
1967 Plymouth Belvedere II 383
1968 Plymouth Barracuda 383
2005 Ram 3500 5.9Diesel
1979 Dodge Power Wagon 360
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