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Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: 340RICK] #1382839 02/16/13 05:32 PM 02/16/13 05:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Looks good Steff what are you using that big fitting where I think the oil cooler lines plumb to? That's where my Peterson R4 Belt Driven Oil Pump is going to feed the oil into the motor.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: WO23Coronet] #1382840 02/17/13 10:23 AM 02/17/13 10:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Do up have a picture of the G4 and G3 cam side by side so we can get a visual on the differences? Or at least a pick of the G4 cam so I can compare it to my 6.1 cam I have here? Gen 3 Cam vs. Gen 4 VCT Cam Pics

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382841 02/17/13 11:48 AM 02/17/13 11:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada WO23Coronet master
WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	A bushing/spacer might work if you finished the inner diameter of the bushing/spacer and left the OD .020" or so big, press it on to the cam, dowel it in place with a couple of dowels so it doesnt move, then chuck it in a lathe with a steady rest on the next closest cam journal and then finish machine the bushing/spacer OD, that would make your bushing/spacer concentric with the others, might work Last edited by WO23Coronet; 02/17/13 01:01 PM.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: WO23Coronet] #1382842 02/26/13 11:50 PM 02/26/13 11:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Got the Oil Pan & Windage Tray on. I built this Oil Pan to replace the Milodon Oil Pan I threw away by mistake. Yes, I'm an idiot!! This Oil Pan was a learning experience, as I wanted to learn how to Tig Weld Aluminum. So, I fabbed this up. It isn't pretty, but it doesn't leak!! A few inside pics.... -16AN Fitting for Pickup to feed Oil to Petersen R4 Belt Driven Oil Pump

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382843 02/27/13 12:46 AM 02/27/13 12:46 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto M mshred master
mshred master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto	Steff, this thing looks awesome! Can't wait to see it done and how it performs in your roadrunner. Nice!

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382844 02/27/13 02:50 AM 02/27/13 02:50 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Very nice STEFF. What are you using for a front cover? Jerry Williams.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: hemidup] #1382845 02/27/13 03:30 AM 02/27/13 03:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Very nice STEFF. What are you using for a front cover? Thanx Jerry! Once I get the motor plate finished, I'm going to look at making some kind of debris cover to protect the belt drive, as this is a street motor. On a side note, I need some rocker tie bar hold downs and collars. Just get ahold of Sharadon?

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382846 02/27/13 10:24 AM 02/27/13 10:24 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Got the Oil Pan & Windage Tray on. I built this Oil Pan to replace the Milodon Oil Pan I threw away by mistake. Yes, I'm an idiot!! This Oil Pan was a learning experience, as I wanted to learn how to Tig Weld Aluminum. So, I fabbed this up. It isn't pretty, but it doesn't leak!! A few inside pics.... -16AN Fitting for Pickup to feed Oil to Petersen R4 Belt Driven Oil Pump STEFF is that a factory pan that you fab a bottom for it? Nice work and it does leak

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: MattW] #1382847 02/27/13 11:29 AM 02/27/13 11:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Yes, the Pan Rail is what I kept from a factory SRT8 Cast Aluminum Oil Pan I had laying around. The rest is .090" thick 3003 aluminum sheet.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382848 02/27/13 04:02 PM 02/27/13 04:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,877 SE Nunya Bubba master
Bubba master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,877 SE Nunya	I know of a Black Challenger we could stab that in... Looks good Brother!

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: Bubba] #1382849 02/27/13 05:31 PM 02/27/13 05:31 PM
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MuscleMike enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 232 Lansing, MI	Nice Lavender block

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: MuscleMike] #1382850 02/27/13 05:37 PM 02/27/13 05:37 PM
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STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Nice Lavender block It's Purple, D*#K Head.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382851 02/27/13 06:05 PM 02/27/13 06:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Thanx Jerry! Once I get the motor plate finished, I'm going to look at making some kind of debris cover to protect the belt drive, as this is a street motor. On a side note, I need some rocker tie bar hold downs and collars. Just get ahold of Sharadon? Yup, just get ahold of Sharadon. Make sure you tell them your using Eagle heads since they take the longer tie bar and are anodized red for itentifcation. Also a side note....Best if you mock them up on the bench first. I have noticed some clearence issues between the provided rocker arm shim's and rockershaft stantion's. Mainly on the exhaust side and mainly on the Eagle head. Only had one issue on a 5.7, no issues on the 6.1's or the Apache heads so you may have to take a die grinder or file (I use a file) and remove a little material from the side of the stantion so the shim can rotate freely. Also once the collars are in place you can make sure the rocker arm has free rotation and the collar doesn't bind up against the sparkplug tower. If you find one that binds all you need to do is loosen the collar and rotate it till it clears. Jerry Williams.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: hemidup] #1382852 02/27/13 08:23 PM 02/27/13 08:23 PM
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340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	I like the oil pan Nice work

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: hemidup] #1382853 02/27/13 08:27 PM 02/27/13 08:27 PM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	At what point do you need tie bars?

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: WO23Coronet] #1382854 02/27/13 09:26 PM 02/27/13 09:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Quote: At what point do you need tie bars? 7000 plus rpm. Basically what my tie bar does is marry the exhaust rockershaft to the intake rockershaft. At high rpm when using OEM equipment, I've seen the factory exhaust rockershaft stantion's fail/crack or break from the bad exhaust pushrod angle in the G3 Hemi. From being a backyard garage shop G3 Hemi engine builder, I'm glad some folk's like the rocker tie's that I engineered and designed....like Keith Lynch, Barton, Teuton, Lofgren. Jerry Williams.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: hemidup] #1382855 02/27/13 10:50 PM 02/27/13 10:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	I have 6.1 heads, Jerry.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382856 02/27/13 10:59 PM 02/27/13 10:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: Do up have a picture of the G4 and G3 cam side by side so we can get a visual on the differences? Or at least a pick of the G4 cam so I can compare it to my 6.1 cam I have here? Gen 3 Cam vs. Gen 4 VCT Cam Pics STEFF You can excusse my ignorance here but where does the oil go once it hits the cam. The VCT is contoled by oil pressure right? I'm trying to figure out how the VCT works.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: MattW] #1382857 02/27/13 11:20 PM 02/27/13 11:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 12,129 Cleveland sunroofgtx I Live Here
sunroofgtx I Live Here Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 12,129 Cleveland	Steff, your reward is coming. Keep it up. Are you still using our Firecore Stage2 Hemi Coils? Keeping them in the stock position? Just wondering. The coils are really catching on , now. Thank you. Our Stage3 Extreme Coils are slowly coming tomgether. Thanks for trusting us. You and Muscle Motors were the first. Thanks. See you soon. ...Lavander...lol.. Join the quickest team in motorsports. Team FireCore. CustomWiresets.com

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: sunroofgtx] #1382858 02/27/13 11:52 PM 02/27/13 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,871 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Steff, your reward is coming. Keep it up. Are you still using our Firecore Stage2 Hemi Coils? Keeping them in the stock position? Just wondering. The coils are really catching on , now. Thank you. Our Stage3 Extreme Coils are slowly coming tomgether. Thanks for trusting us. You and Muscle Motors were the first. Thanks. See you soon. ...Lavander...lol.. Hey Rick!! Absolutely, I'm still using your Coils!! I was considering getting new valve covers that require relocated coils and your wires, but am not sure yet. I'm a Firecore Guy, don't forget it!!

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