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new exhaust feels faster #1381207 02/03/13 10:36 PM 02/03/13 10:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	I took off the 3.5 straight pipe with bullets and put on 3" with X pipe and dynomax mufflers and just went for a ride and it feels downright nasty Honesty, I am not one of those butt meter guys and I don't want to get my expectations up but its just hard not to be excited being able to hear the stereo now and it just feels like a bad mofo now I also have cutouts off the fenderwell headers just incase I'm being fooled 7574074-IMG_20130130_170709.jpg (120 downloads) Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381208 02/03/13 11:08 PM 02/03/13 11:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,592 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,592 Great Neck,LI,new york	When I upgraded my exhaust and installed an "X" ,I was REAL happy with the new sound.Much quieter untill the loud pedal is depressed 7574153-5_10_08_al_exhaust_022.JPG (77 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381209 02/03/13 11:11 PM 02/03/13 11:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I took off the 3.5 straight pipe with bullets and put on 3" with X pipe and dynomax mufflers and just went for a ride and it feels downright nasty Honesty, I am not one of those butt meter guys and I don't want to get my expectations up but its just hard not to be excited being able to hear the stereo now and it just feels like a bad mofo now I also have cutouts off the fenderwell headers just incase I'm being fooled Well, we all want something for our $. With the butt meter test, you can't lose. I know lots of guys that run 9's with a butt meter. Fastest 300

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381210 02/04/13 01:13 AM 02/04/13 01:13 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I like how you went straight back with the collector and took the full exhaust to the inside... wise move

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1381211 02/04/13 01:40 AM 02/04/13 01:40 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: I like how you went straight back with the collector and took the full exhaust to the inside... wise move that is a kit from jegs. I thought it would be perfect. I dont have much ground clearance because it had to snake under the ladder bar cross member and also the frame connectors it will be interesting to do some back to back tests opening the collectors Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381212 02/04/13 02:35 AM 02/04/13 02:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I am very glad I went to a 3" system with the X-pipe when I put my 493 in my 63. I use the TTI 3" system and Ultra-Flow mufflers with the tailpiles out to the rear bumper. I love it as I can cruise and listen to my radio with no problem and it sounds great to me. Only gets real noisey when I lay into it. I did not put cutouts in mine as I like to race thru the pipes like I drive it. I have never uncapped it but dont know if it would go much faster anyway. Glad yours worked out good for you. Ron

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: 383man] #1381213 02/04/13 03:18 AM 02/04/13 03:18 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar master
OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Quote: I am very glad I went to a 3" system with the X-pipe when I put my 493 in my 63. I use the TTI 3" system and Ultra-Flow mufflers with the tailpiles out to the rear bumper. I love it as I can cruise and listen to my radio with no problem and it sounds great to me. Only gets real noisey when I lay into it. I did not put cutouts in mine as I like to race thru the pipes like I drive it. I have never uncapped it but dont know if it would go much faster anyway. Glad yours worked out good for you. Ron Ron, any drone with the 3" system? Heard its a problem. I'm trying to decide between the 2.5" and 3" system for the Bee. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: OhioMopar] #1381214 02/04/13 03:59 AM 02/04/13 03:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I have no drone at all with the pipes going all the way to the back of the car like this. Thats why I am glad I did not just do turn downs at the rear. Its just much nicer driving with the full lenth tailpipes on the car and no drone at all like this. On the old eng I had turn downs at the rear and it would give a drone at idle in gear some. None of that at all now. Ron

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: 383man] #1381215 02/04/13 08:11 AM 02/04/13 08:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	I've got 2-1/8x34"x3-1/2" headers that dump into 24" long 3-1/2" collectors. From there they go into 3-1/2" pipes with X-pipe into 3-1/2" Ultra-Flows, love the sound. But ever since I made everything up the motor always felt a bit stronger when I dumped the exhaust to go racing. Last summer when I was dynoing the 605 I made 2 last pulls, one with exhaust bolted up and one with open collectors, just as I runs at the track. The results were jaw dropping; Open exhaust 852.8hp@5782rpm and 818.4ftlbs.@4818rpm. Full exhaust attached 735.7hp@5405rpm And 748.5ftlbs.@4274rpm It lost 117.1hp and 69.9ftlbs. going though what I thought would be a pretty free flowing exhaust. If I'd had more time I may have tryed fabricating expansion chambers between the collectors and pipes to see what I could gain back.Dave

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: quickd100] #1381216 02/04/13 09:55 AM 02/04/13 09:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,592 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,592 Great Neck,LI,new york	Something WRONG with that picture HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: quickd100] #1381217 02/04/13 10:33 AM 02/04/13 10:33 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: I've got 2-1/8x34"x3-1/2" headers that dump into 24" long 3-1/2" collectors. From there they go into 3-1/2" pipes with X-pipe into 3-1/2" Ultra-Flows, love the sound. But ever since I made everything up the motor always felt a bit stronger when I dumped the exhaust to go racing. Last summer when I was dynoing the 605 I made 2 last pulls, one with exhaust bolted up and one with open collectors, just as I runs at the track. The results were jaw dropping; Open exhaust [Email]852.8hp@5782rpm[/Email] and [Email]818.4ftlbs.@4818rpm.[/Email] Full exhaust attached [Email]735.7hp@5405rpm[/Email] And [Email]748.5ftlbs.@4274rpm[/Email] It lost 117.1hp and 69.9ftlbs. going though what I thought would be a pretty free flowing exhaust. If I'd had more time I may have tryed fabricating expansion chambers between the collectors and pipes to see what I could gain back.Dave I was a bit suspicious of the feeling faster thing. It is probably due to the fact that my car is actually slower with less tire spin pinning me in the seat than actually being faster. that's exactly why I'm not a butt meter guy. I once put a 950hp holley on my car and thought it was faster than my sixpack, oh, how I was wrong about that Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381218 02/04/13 12:48 PM 02/04/13 12:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,894 Weddington, N.C. Streetwize master
Streetwize master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,894 Weddington, N.C.	HEMI's always seem to want a LOT more downstream pipe area than wedge motors of comparable cubes and even head flows. It seems Certain motors seem like they won't fall out of a tree without big pipes, Cleveland Fords and Mitsubishi turbos also come to mind. Maybe you need to consider running a dual 4" system for that 605. WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: Streetwize] #1381219 02/04/13 01:03 PM 02/04/13 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Bobby; I know pipemax says I need 2-3/8" primary tubes for the 605 and I'm sure a 4" system would pick it up. But....on the street it's near impossible to put it all to the ground anyway. I always drop the pipes at the track. One day I may decide to build a new set of headers sized correctly for the motor but for now I'll focus on dialing in the chassis to handle what I've got now. The dyno can really be an eye opener for what works and what you think will work.Dave

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381220 02/05/13 10:42 AM 02/05/13 10:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,417 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,417 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Very cool Ray! It always feels good to be able to romp on it on the highway and not worry about it being so loud. I'm interested to see how it works at the track. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1381221 02/05/13 12:45 PM 02/05/13 12:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut OP Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Quote: Very cool Ray! It always feels good to be able to romp on it on the highway and not worry about it being so loud. I'm interested to see how it works at the track. Ya, we need to get together for that Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: new exhaust feels faster [Re: sixpackgut] #1381222 02/05/13 01:02 PM 02/05/13 01:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,417 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,417 Marion, South Carolina [><]	I should have mine back on the road this weekend. Finally tracked down my noise, lol. Did a lot of work for something simple. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

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