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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: Commando1] #1374217
01/24/13 01:12 PM
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I, ummm... appreciate the responses, guys. Thanks.




I'm talking about the reamer posted by Challenger1, which has a rubber shoe on bottom of the cutter what sets it to be angled like this / ... MAYBE ANOTHER KIND OF REAMER, able to make the cut totally vertical won't get you in troubles, and will need just to hone after the cut.

IMHO my mistake was on buy and use THAT reamer, at least without take care of the shoe. Maybe if I was removed the shoe, story was to be diff.


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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: NachoRT74] #1374218
01/24/13 02:18 PM
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I, ummm... appreciate the responses, guys. Thanks.




I'm talking about the reamer posted by Challenger1, which has a rubber shoe on bottom of the cutter what sets it to be angled like this / ... MAYBE ANOTHER KIND OF REAMER, able to make the cut totally vertical won't get you in troubles, and will need just to hone after the cut.

IMHO my mistake was on buy and use THAT reamer, at least without take care of the shoe. Maybe if I was removed the shoe, story was to be diff.




If I am looking at it right that piece at the bottom has to be like that to make the part expand out to the size of the bore .

This is why only a trained professional should be using one ...

Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: JohnRR] #1374219
01/24/13 02:25 PM
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I, ummm... appreciate the responses, guys. Thanks.




I'm talking about the reamer posted by Challenger1, which has a rubber shoe on bottom of the cutter what sets it to be angled like this / ... MAYBE ANOTHER KIND OF REAMER, able to make the cut totally vertical won't get you in troubles, and will need just to hone after the cut.

IMHO my mistake was on buy and use THAT reamer, at least without take care of the shoe. Maybe if I was removed the shoe, story was to be diff.




If I am looking at it right that piece at the bottom has to be like that to make the part expand out to the size of the bore .

This is why only a trained professional should be using one ...





TOTALLY TRUE! LOL


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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: NachoRT74] #1374220
01/24/13 02:50 PM
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Here's a pic of the one I've used since 1977. I actually bought it from JC Whitney, mail order. It's a KH 209 model.

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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: Challenger 1] #1374221
01/24/13 03:51 PM
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Step by step,
how would be the best way
to use a rotary tool
to remove a ridge,
and what would be the ideal
flap or grinding wheel
to use in the tool?

Should one try to totally remove the ridge,
or just remove emough material to allow the piston rings to compress and pass over a reduced ridge?

Should one strive to keep
the centerline of the rotary tool parallel to the line of the bore, or should the rotary tool be held at an angle
to grind the original ridge
into a shallow ramp shape?

Since saving the block from damage
that forces an overbore is much desired,
At what level of material removal
should one stop for safety's sake?

Perhaps a shim of a few thousandths thickness
could be held just below the ridge
to keep the rotary tool wheel from accidently
cutting too deep
or too far down?

Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: 360view] #1374222
01/25/13 11:02 AM
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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: 360view] #1374223
01/25/13 11:13 PM
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I'd be scared to try to remove a ridge with a rotary stone/bit/abrasive wheel, whatever. To maintain the tolerance you need for eight bores? Without botching one up? I'd go back to the reamer.

The mistake I see people make with a ridge reamer is they turn it with a ratchet or a breaker bar. This imposes a side load on the tool and just makes it harder to maintain alignment with the bore. I get above the block (use a small step stool) and use a T-handle for the reamer so everything stays aligned. Just my


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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: 360view] #1374224
01/26/13 12:13 AM
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Step by step,
how would be the best way
to use a rotary tool
to remove a ridge,
and what would be the ideal
flap or grinding wheel
to use in the tool?

Should one try to totally remove the ridge,
or just remove emough material to allow the piston rings to compress and pass over a reduced ridge?

Should one strive to keep
the centerline of the rotary tool parallel to the line of the bore, or should the rotary tool be held at an angle
to grind the original ridge
into a shallow ramp shape?

Since saving the block from damage
that forces an overbore is much desired,
At what level of material removal
should one stop for safety's sake?

Perhaps a shim of a few thousandths thickness
could be held just below the ridge
to keep the rotary tool wheel from accidently
cutting too deep
or too far down?






Your joking right ? The ridge reamer tool is the only way to do it, other than taking the block to the machine shop. The questions you have asked and if your block needs work done to it you had better have someone else do it. JMO


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Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1374225
01/31/13 06:42 AM
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Here's a pic of the one I've used since 1977. I actually bought it from JC Whitney, mail order. It's a KH 209 model.




That's the kind I'm familiar with.
If you screwed up an engine with a ridge reamer either it already had issues or you didn't do it right. Either way it's not the tools fault.

Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: 5thAve] #1374226
01/31/13 10:48 AM
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. Either way it's not the tools fault.



Unless you got it from Harbor Freight.

Re: Ridge Reamers [Re: 360view] #1374227
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Backing up to Basics
The purpose of a ridge reamer is to
Allow the old piston rings
To avoid the ridge obstruction
And let the pistons be removed.

If the rings could be cut opposite the gap
in some easy way
they would collapse
and allow the piston to be removed
despite the ridge.

Anyway to do this simply?

One thought is that if the old piston could be pressed against the bore wall at the gap,
then the opposite side of the old ring could be drilled with a bit whose diameter would be just slightly larger than the old ring.

Oil ring would be toughest to do.

I also wonder what would happen if
the block were hot
and a round chunk of dry ice
was placed on the crown of the piston
to chill it and the rings?

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