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6bt Cummins in an abody? #1359774
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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SLOW67] #1359775
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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...




LOL... that engine weights about 900-1000 lbs... better
get some new T-bars.... but if its in good shape and
its a steal its worth picking it up(at least it is
to me)

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1359776
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Usually run around 1100 lb.

Buy the engine, put it in something that can use it, or sell it to a board member.

Here's the way to estimate how much it weighs: Imagine a 318-powered A-body with another 318 minus manifolds bolted on the hood.

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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1359777
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I've thought about this too but I think the 4BT would be a better fit.


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1359778
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I think all the weight would counteract any kind of weight transfer and you are going to have a ton of torque around 1000 rpm to attempt to hook.

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SpareParts] #1359779
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I could be wrong, but I think the radiator would have to mount where the front bumper would normally go to fit that monster in there.


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SLOW67] #1359780
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I don’t get it, if you want to go cheap. Put a SBC in there!


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: bwdst6] #1359781
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I feel sorry for the ball joints in there

Also they are very tall and would require a 6 pack scoop stretched from the front of the hood to the cowl just to cover it all up. Plus to get the crank center-line correct you would have to shrink the oil pan or it will drag the ground or raise the trans tunnel from front to back a few inches or maybe a combination of both.


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: HotRodDave] #1359782
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The biggest problem I would have. The #6 rod is right beside your right knee. I've seen the whole they make when they come out of the block. Not pretty.

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SLOW67] #1359783
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Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...




I don't see any problems or drawbacks with the swap. You are planning on using it in the 2 wheel drive 'sled pulls' aren't you? Front weight is needed.


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: bwdst6] #1359784
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I don’t get it, if you want to go cheap. Put a SBC in there!


When you say "sbc", you DO mean Small Block Chrysler, don't you?

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: tjmarcus1] #1359785
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No, it's pretty well known how cheap a small block Chevy combo is!!!


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SLOW67] #1359786
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Put it in the back seat of a 68 Cuda & call it "Cummins under Glass"

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: SLOW67] #1359787
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Quote:

Just found a nice running early 12v for a steal, What are your thoughts on a cummins fitment in an abody? Will it weigh more than a iron headed BB? Need a lift pump to the IP? Just throwing this out for discussion...




You could buy my ProStreet '78 D100 and throw it in there. It fits, and I know it does. I thought about doing it a few times...THe 6-speed trans will help keep weight down a little.


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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: Dragula] #1359788
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Do what you what, I had a friend that had one laying around, along with a mudtang put them together and and ran them, now that being said it ran like poop for a year before he got it figured out and made some steam, I think when it was all said and done when he sold it, it was running 9.00s ? I think I have some video's some where...

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1359789
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Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: Defbob] #1359790
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Oh, You meant a Chrysler A-body... my bad

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: Defbob] #1359791
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Move the fire wall back a foot or so then replace the front shocks with a 4/4 so it won't sag and use those 28 inch rims so the oil pan don't hit. That should get you started, oh yea forgot the wheel barrow full of money.

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: Defbob] #1359792
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We race with dodge trucks that have spent over 30k on mods for that engine, They are not even close to competive in the mud... but they sound mean

Re: 6bt Cummins in an abody? [Re: emarine01] #1359793
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I was just looking at a magazine at the book store that had a late 60s Caddy with a Cummins 6bt. Also, search Youtube for the early 70s Monte Carlo with a 24 valve CTD. Sure, it's not going to work in an A-body, but I don't see why it couldn't be done in an Imperial or a 71-74 Charger. You would think that the Monte Carlo and the Charger have similarly sized engine compartments.

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