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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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damnit why the up in price???
Probably as an expected 'Customer Service phone-costs compensation' for the whining Moparts-members 
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/12/13 08:27 PM
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damnit why the up in price???
Probably as an expected 'Customer Service phone-costs compensation' for the whining Moparts-members
lol I was gonna order one at the end of the month but not at the new price 
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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I feel like an idiot for not pulling the trigger during the 10% sale now. I'd get mine from Bergmann now.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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Thank-you, Rick, I really appreciate your response. 
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[As far as welding: Agreed. I, too, would MUCH rather have a one-pc. cast housing.
Flaming River has this power steering in 12, 14, and 16:1 ratios. All brand-new components and dedicated casting, these Guys are with the program. 
$150.00 cheaper than the Borgeson butcher-job and would require the same amount of fabrication to make it work.
It would'nt hurt to send them a few requests do a Mopar version of this box, after all, they have already done the manual box. If they built it, I'd buy it.
Fast-ratio power steering.
Awesome! I will see if I can light a fire under them...
Rick
Left 2 very detailed messages for their marketing guy...no call back so far (been a few days). Doesn't look good, I may try one more call, giving them the benefit of the doubt (vacation?)
RIck
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/13/13 01:18 PM
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Thanks for going to bat for all of us, Rick. I'm staying positive on this because they brought the manual box to market. The number of views on this thread and the content of it presents a pretty strong case for Flaming River. Perhaps they could get you to work "in-house" with them on this.......... 
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/14/13 09:08 PM
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Thanks for going to bat for all of us, Rick.
I'm staying positive on this because they brought the manual box to market. The number of views on this thread and the content of it presents a pretty strong case for Flaming River.
this..........
Just looking at how fast Summit were to increase their price  it must be because there is a buzz after Rick's article and this thread... Another proof that there is demand
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/15/13 05:59 AM
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this place has them for 649.99 http://www.performanceonline.com/Borgeson-Universal/summit should be able to beat this with the price guarantee..
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70 charger ,all aluminum 528 hemi 727 cope rmvb,680hp 670 tq,full sequential holley hp efi,full hotchkis tvs,qa1 k and lowers,borgeson steering box cass viper 11.75 with cass s-trac dana 3.54
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/15/13 05:18 PM
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hey rick in your article you mention you got the powersteering lines from borgeson that are metric on the box end and hooks up to our saginaw pump, do you have the part # of these lines?
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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TC -- moving back a little on your statements about the GoodGuys events and Mopars/bountys, etc, back about 2010 the GoodGuys held an event at Chicago/Joliet Rt. 66. Well, John Sandberg came with his SCCA Solo C/Prepared race AAR... and, although he was allowed to take runs on their mini-autocross course, and having his race slicks just as he'd typically compete with his car at any SCCA Solo/autocross... John's AAR set Fastest Time of Day... each day of FRI-SAT-SUN... and he allowed many people to ride along as a passenger... everyone was exstatic who ran in his car... he was the most popular car in that event the entire weekend!... and Popular HotRodding mgzn placed a photo and small blurb about his awesome car into their magzn coverage on that event. The Fords/GMs were in awe as they watched with envy! One of these years I'll take my T/A to their event (having 200 tread wear tires as that's the minimum allowable) and see what I can show them!.. the fastest cars at those events typically all have the minimum tread wear ratings of ~200... as that's a key/critical factor in their competition for anyone to place high.
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/22/13 02:43 PM
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Has anyone installed the Borg box and checked it for bump steer? The chassis manual allows us to shim the box to fix bump steering issues but I was wondering if Borgensen actually builds up the new housing to duplicate the original or if they just weld it and hope for the best.  Tim
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/22/13 03:17 PM
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Has anyone installed the Borg box and checked it for bump steer? The chassis manual allows us to shim the box to fix bump steering issues but I was wondering if Borgensen actually builds up the new housing to duplicate the original or if they just weld it and hope for the best. Tim
Why would they precision machine and weld up the box to put it in the wrong location? They build lots of other direct replacement modified boxes. It's not a new company.
I know that may seem like an assumption. And stranger things have happened in this industry. But I think if it was off Ehrenburg would have noticed it.
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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I was just looking at where they added the new mount to the box, if its not the same as the original box, there might be some issues in getting the box and pitman in the same plane as the factory box. Even the factory boxes needed shims in some circumstances because of K-member variations. Tim
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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01/24/13 08:30 AM
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I'll reward inovation for something I need, especially if it saves me time, money, modifying my original parts, or all of the above, and will be the first in line to buy from the first guy who comes to bat with something complete. Such as in this case, a true bolt in no modification steering box upgrade. Offer a ready to use no welding or steering column modification required bolt in coupler, a bolt in box with no clearance grinding required, all of the appropriate hoses and fittings (and even pump if required) credit card in hand awaiting the call.
I am making the modified couplers now and I'm a Borgeson dealer if anyone is interested. PM sent to Scott.
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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I know that the mid to late 70's Dodge truckes used a saginaw box with the coupler, maybe you can find one of those to work. I remember rebuilding mine several times years ago. Tim
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