Re: Early Funny Cars info
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The above websites are good & I'd suggest you contact Don Garlit's Drag Racing Museum in Ocala, Fla. along with NHRA's museum. It sounds like you want to build a Logghe Chassis'd car which was a bit wider, used Koni shocks, ladder bars (24-32in length), perhaps a "twin port" Hilborn injection set-up, perhaps a Torqueflite trans (though they were disappearing about that time), single plug Hemi heads , though there were a few other brand F/Cs, a relatively small injector pump. *-71s were used back then so that's not a problem. There's still alot of the old guys around to get tech advice from & nostalgia F/C has its own rules to give you a hand with it. You could always build a BB/FC, which was an injected car (simpler & less money) to learn the ins-&-outs of these things.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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12/15/12 10:22 PM
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I see you are in Mass. I would google Bruce Larson, he is up in that neck of the woods and can answer many of your questions. This will get your juices going. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc6w1fJXAowHere is the car he is building right now. (picture lifted from dragracingonline.com) More info there.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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I found this original body not 10 miles from the house--it went to Norway
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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12/18/12 08:49 PM
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Hey Paul,
What are your objectives with the car, exhibition passes, competing in the N/FC groups, just making hits for fun, etc. I suspect with that old of a chassis, you're doing it more for the love of doing it, which is the way the movement started out, unfortunately its turned into a lot more than that (read: $$$$$ and more $$$$)anda 6.00 car is almost not competitive anymore. There are some groups that have come up with some general guidelines to keep the cars and costs in check (Great Lakes Funny Cars comes to mind) and put on some decent match race shows. The Funny Car Reunion at Englishtown would be a good place to go, usually in July each year, to get to know some of the folks that are still doing it for the love of it. As far as power plant, keep in mind what parts are still somewhat available that would have been run back in the late 60's. You also need to determine what your chassis may have originally been built for. Say you decided on a late Hemi, you need to check and see if the uprights and diagonal on the left side were designed to clear the late model oil pump, and if you want to try to run an onboard starter. Little things like that are not insurmountable but can be a pain in the tail. Early model Hemi has "way cool" all over it but seems like the F/C guys gravitated to the late model more and there were suprisingly a lot of big-block Chebbies in the early F/C's. As far as bodies, there are several good builders making really decent and much lighter replica's that have been pulled off of molds of earlier bodies. There is a button on the Classic Funny Car site of body builders, most all usually between $2800-3500, which considering the work involved is not unreasonable.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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A lot of the old bodies are being done again, once again, go to www.classicfunnycarboard.com to get the list of body builders. For Mopars, you can get '70 Challenger, '70 Cuda, '70 Duster, and the '77 Arrow. Wheelbases between 118" - 125" are available.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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Hey Larry, I was just browsing through Rosetty's site last night and what should I see but a pic with half of you and all of Itty Bitty, thumbs and all. You guys were a long way from St. Louis..... http://www.nitrocoder.com/Databases/FunnyFarm/DB/bodies/images/Chall3.JPGRodstRace, I agree, think Coyotedale's Satellite turned out truly Bad-A, not sure he is still at it though, he built several but I think the economy got him, or at least slowed him down. Paul, Your chassis may be too early, but seems like since its a Don Hardy, that there ought to be a Sema or SFI builders tag/ID plate welded on the chassis somewhere. If there is, would be fairly easy getting some history info from some of the old-timers on the Classic Funny Car Board. If you havn't yet joined that board, it would be worth it, just so you could post the pic on there, guarantee, a bunch of them would go nuts scrambling to find info on it.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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One of the issues with a wide chassis is header fit. Tom Sneden is having that issue right now. The headers are not zoomies, but custom under the chassis headers. Dave Reitz can tell you more about that (I sent you his email address). Jon
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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Ronnie, those pictures were taken at Jacobsmeyers house when Itty Bitty and I put the body on the chassis with the chassis populated for the first time.
As for the newer bodies fitting the wide style chassis, you just have to ask if it's a standard width body or one of the pinched in ones. Without the trees and tin work, I would think any body should fit unless your front and rear tack is super wide.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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12/24/12 11:08 AM
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Merry Christmas all!,
Does anybody know if the early funny cars used a 9" ford rear end in pre-70s funny cars? I have seen a few photo's with a 9" but I am not sure if they were/are originals or updates done after the years. Thanks again for all the info, Paul
Paul, They were used, but so were a lot of others, Olds, Pontiacs, Dana's, even some 8 3/4's. Don't think the 9-inchers were any real advantage until the aftermarket latched on to it and started making some good pieces to upgrade them.
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Re: Early Funny Cars info
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One of the issues with a wide chassis is header fit. Tom Sneden is having that issue right now. The headers are not zoomies, but custom under the chassis headers. Dave Reitz can tell you more about that (I sent you his email address). Jon
The original headers were zoomie-style but they had to go under the chassis to get there. Basically passed under the chassis, under the body, and turned up.
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