Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
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11/06/12 12:45 PM
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domingo
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Hi! Im about to install the Summit Crankcase evacuation system on my hemi race car with open headers. However it didnt come withy any instructions. Is there any special considerations I need to make sure before installing it? Where do I weld the pipes to the headers? And at what angle? Does it make any difference where I drill my valve covers for the breathers? Do I need to weld a baffle under the breathers on the valve covers? This is the kit I got http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-120108/overview/
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
[Re: domingo]
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11/06/12 01:08 PM
11/06/12 01:08 PM
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My . All kits are basically the same. Yes the pipes need welded just back from where the header pipes start to merge with the collector at a 45* angle foreword. Also, the evac pipes need to be no more than 1/2" deep into the header. The breathers, in my opinion, need a baffle under them. That's the way I did mine and I haven't had any trouble with the installation.
4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
[Re: 68LAR]
#1331437
11/07/12 09:28 AM
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Also make sure you put the breathers in the valve covers towards the front of the engine.
Why? Just because the instructions say so, or is there another reason? Mine have been on the rear of my valve covers for several years with no issues? Maybe this is for "wheel standers" only, which mine isn't.
Well, the engine tilts back and the oil, however much would run to the back of the head. Just my opinion, sorry it offended you.
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
[Re: 68LAR]
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11/07/12 11:06 AM
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I ran into an issue with mine in the back this year. The valve cover I had on had the passenger side in the front and the driver side in the rear on my 1970 duster (408). It would smoke from about 1000ft to the turnoff after a pass. I assumed it was a tire rubbing since they were close and I had just put a new ladderbar set-up on it. While under the car about the third time I noticed oil in the driver side collector. I loaded up and while checking it out at home removed the hose leading down to the evac system and it was wet from sucking oil. I bought a new set of aluminum covers off ebay and redrilled the cover so that it was in the front too and it fixed my problem. Probably a lot of oil laying in top the edelbrock heads at the end of a pass.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
[Re: 68LAR]
#1331444
11/07/12 12:44 PM
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I run Dynomax Ulta-Flo mufflers. At idle there is almost zero vacuum. At around 3000 rpm, the system is pulling around 5" of vacuum. It will pull that much on up the rpm scale. This is one of the reasons that I also run a pcv. It pulls at an idle and drops off at higher rpms. So I have some vacuum all the time.
i used (4) 55 gallon dyno drums and 6" pipes for my testing and still lost vacuum at WOT
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
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11/07/12 06:03 PM
11/07/12 06:03 PM
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actionange
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I just eliminated the Moroso pan evac in faver of a 1 qt. breather tank foe each valve cover.
Have you run it since making that change to see if the smoke stopped?
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Re: Summit crankcase evac system: proper way to install?
[Re: actionange]
#1331446
11/07/12 06:20 PM
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I just eliminated the Moroso pan evac in faver of a 1 qt. breather tank foe each valve cover.
Have you run it since making that change to see if the smoke stopped?
I run a similar setup on my 14.5:1 446" wedge motor and it works great. I run a -10 line from each valve cover to a breather tank. Standard tension oil rings.
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