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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
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10/30/12 09:43 PM
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topbrent
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Not many of you guys could hang with this truck either. I am not giving these examples to Mopar Bash, but rather to give you RACERS some ideas for your future racing powerplants. How can you possibly ignore this level of power production per dollar in this day and age? Weighs just slightly more than a fully equipped chubby new SRT8 Challenger. Just another mostly stock turbo LSx 1000+ HP truck. http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1529749-9-sec-stock-short-block-lq4-full-size-4x4.htmlPlug the weight, ET and MPH into the calculator and check out the HP. http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php 1,070 HP hp to run 139mph @4850lbs 1,040 HP to run 9.73 @4850lbs 4850lbs, runs 9.73/139 in 4x4 hi mode.-2003 GMC Z71 4x4 -2005 6.0L LQ4 Factory pistons, rods, rod bolts, and crankshaft. - Hand ported stock valve 317's, LS9 gaskets, head studs - JFR Isky "tripple 12 cam(212/212 .56x/.56x 112 lsa) Isky springs, stock pushrods -All 100% factory truck acc's including Truck intake, TB, MAFS, and AC. - Budget Garrett GT76/T4, 3" air to air Intercooler. -4L80E, Yank 3400 multi disk converter -Pump gas with 2 gallons of av gas added, Meth injection. -4 Micky ET Street 28x11.50x16 bias ply  
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: topbrent]
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10/30/12 10:10 PM
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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Both of those examples have one big thing in common. INCREDIBLY BORING!!!!  How much would it cost to go 9s on a superbike? AND you would be reasonably sure you could ride to the track AND make it home.... Wayyyyyy better "bang for the buck". 
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/30/12 10:19 PM
10/30/12 10:19 PM
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topbrent
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Both of those examples have one big thing in common.
INCREDIBLY BORING!!!!
Huh? 9.70's at 140 is boring?
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/30/12 10:26 PM
10/30/12 10:26 PM
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topbrent
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Both VEHICLES are boring.
Sure I can concede that the sheetmetal that is wrapped around the engines in the examples is boring.
Now install that powerplant that in your mopar and it gets pretty exciting. 
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: topbrent]
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10/30/12 11:32 PM
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WO23Coronet
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Not many of you guys could hang with this truck either.
I am not giving these examples to Mopar Bash, but rather to give you RACERS some ideas for your future racing powerplants.
How can you possibly ignore this level of power production per dollar in this day and age?
Weighs just slightly more than a fully equipped chubby new SRT8 Challenger.
Just another mostly stock turbo LSx 1000+ HP truck.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1529749-9-sec-stock-short-block-lq4-full-size-4x4.html
Plug the weight, ET and MPH into the calculator and check out the HP. http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php
1,070 HP hp to run 139mph @4850lbs
1,040 HP to run 9.73 @4850lbs
4850lbs, runs 9.73/139 in 4x4 hi mode.
-2003 GMC Z71 4x4
-2005 6.0L LQ4 Factory pistons, rods, rod bolts, and crankshaft.
- Hand ported stock valve 317's, LS9 gaskets, head studs
- JFR Isky "tripple 12 cam(212/212 .56x/.56x 112 lsa) Isky springs, stock pushrods
-All 100% factory truck acc's including Truck intake, TB, MAFS, and AC.
- Budget Garrett GT76/T4, 3" air to air Intercooler.
-4L80E, Yank 3400 multi disk converter
-Pump gas with 2 gallons of av gas added, Meth injection.
-4 Micky ET Street 28x11.50x16 bias ply
I agree that this is where the LS engines have it on the HEMI, the factory pistons and rods can take a beating, the HEMI, not so much, BUT, if u changed out the rods and pistons a HEMI could eclipse an LS with the same parts, remember HEMI'S love boost, more expensive yes but just as much if not more potential
I will admit I am very jealous that stock LS rods and pistons are as tough as they are and can see why people use them
Here's a HEMI getting it done:
http://twinturbocreations.com/ttc/gallery/video/worlds-fastest-srt8-jeep/
Last edited by WO23Coronet; 10/31/12 01:13 AM.
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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10/31/12 02:48 AM
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dodgeboy11
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I'm an engine guy. I don't necessarily condone putting an off brand engine in a different brand car, but it's hard to argue with the LS engine. http://youtu.be/fnq7qja7As8here's an extreme example, but it is NA and the car it's in is running a 5 speed stick. Pretty impressive.
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
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10/31/12 02:58 AM
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I thought about swapping a 5.7 hemi into a ta I had before  Always loved the 93-02 body styling, but I love mopars more... so it would be a perfect swap to me. As far as a chevy engine in a mopar, might as well do a 350, they are even cheaper. You could also take a 5.0 put on a ebay turbo system for cheap and run 9s too. Maybe not for too long, but I've seen it done. To each their own, but I always knew I'd have to spend more to build a mopar and I'm not going to put in a gm engine to try and save a few bucks.
68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
[Re: dangina]
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10/31/12 07:19 AM
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What has suprised me is the number of people on here that said they either thought about it or have/are going to do it.
Yes, I too believe at a certian point, buying brand new parts, the cost can become a wash. But like all things GM, eventually, someone has got to go faster and used parts become available cheaper. And when supply and demand weigh on new parts being produced, well, just like the good old 350, they are going to be much more abundant vs. a more specialty like a G3 HEMI.
Is it for everyone, certianly not, and the posts here are not trying to push anyone in one direction. I think the pro's of it are valid reasons--cost right out of the box in alot of areas is usually cheaper to go just as fast. The con's of it are you are left with a crossbred car that may or may not sell if that is the ultimate goal. That is why I said right from the beginning that if it is done, do not chop the car so it can be returned to stock later. It can be done.
Outcast Dodge guy.
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
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10/31/12 08:00 AM
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jim sciortino
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I don't give a $&#t what anyone does with their car, but I wouldn't embarrass a MOPAR body that I owned. MOPAR engines range from as little horsepower as someone wants, up to 10,000+.....if you're not scared of some "cackle". If ya need more than that, call Lockheed Martin.....or NASA.
If I wanted an LS engine, I'd buy a GM.....but then again, I don't care about any of that here today gone tomorrow "class" stuff that bends and changes rules like the wind blows.
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
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10/31/12 08:06 AM
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Let's face it. None of us are into Mopars for the bang for the buck quality or even the sheer beauty of some of the models  We're in it because at some point in our lives we saw one that just knocked our socks off. It's completely emotional with little nod to practicality (except for me. It was better than the car I traded it for ) That's why people get stirred up over this and I agree. If you're into Mopars then why mix them? If you want practical, buy a Camry. Or a camaro with a 350. I'm not bashing Chevys. There's a few that I would trade five of my Chargers for. But few of them would attract the interest this car has. I've had a few nice cars in my day and run with a bunch nicer than mine. But there always seems to be a group of people around mine because it's so unique and novel. First gen Chargers are still a good buy, so maybe the bang for the buck component isn't lost after all 
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Re: Anyone put a LS in their Mopar yet?
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10/31/12 09:46 AM
10/31/12 09:46 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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just get it over with and buy ya a beautiful yellow 70 Chevelle or red 73 camaro...
Really if you want different get a new hemi, the prices are pretty good.
Nah, not into 70 Chevelles, or disco Camaros... I just dont see any real future for the new "hemi" If it was so great everyone would put those in Fox Bodys... Again Im a Mopar Guy, but the new Mopars just dont measure up to the new GM products... 
Well the GM guys don't measure up to the Furd guys either so why not do a 4.6? Add some boost to your motor if it isn't fast enough for you. If you do go GM make sure you paint your engine bay semi-gloss black, You want the engine to feel at home.
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