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Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
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10/18/12 01:19 AM
10/18/12 01:19 AM
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Chargerfan68
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We had a track outing last thursday at Atco, NJ and I felt it went real well. A little background on my Charger. This is my new engine with specs: 68 440 block machined and finished .030" , line honed, and decked to yield .000 " deck ht. 440 source 4.25 stroke, kit. with 2.2 journals. Edelbrock Performer RPM heads milled to 81 to give me 10.4 actual measured compr. I cleaned up the bowls, guides, and opened up pinch area and gasket matched heads, polished chambers. Comp Cams custom Solid Flat tappet, 648" @ 272 at .050 ex., 640" @ 268 at .050. (sorry, just corrected dur. specs 10/19/2012) the Lift is with 1.6 rockers. Harland Sharpes rockers. Victor 440 Intake gasket matched and smoothed at inlet. Holley Hp 950 carb jetted at track for open headers. Hooker 2" super comps with collector extensions. Tremec Tko 600 5speed transmission Dana 60 4.30 with Caltracs and adj. shocks M/T ET Drags 11.0 28 15 On pro stars Car weight with me in seat is 4080 lbs. Best time so far was 10.97 @ 126 with a 1.465 60 ft. I know the et should be alot better with the 126, but I just can't seem to powershift this tranny at high rpm. I have read that this is an issue with this tranny? not makin excuses, just stating. What do you all think about the combo and time ran with this car weight.? I run only pump gas 93 octane. Here is a link to a picture and vid:  video Thanks for any comments, Greg.
Last edited by Chargerfan68; 10/19/12 09:35 PM.
1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: Thumperdart]
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10/18/12 04:39 AM
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Nice pic.. I think your car 60ft's good for that weight. From what i've seen, manual trans cars do seem to mph well. As regards the trans, there's people on here, that i'm sure could give you the answers you're looking for. congrats on the 10, it's the one i chased for a few years and it's very rewarding when you do it. Mick 
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: deaks]
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10/18/12 05:45 AM
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Can you powershift 2nd even? On my t56 I can powershift 1-4 if I'm on my game if I'm not I have to let off during the 2-3 shift. Very nice you got a ten with that setup regardless.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
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10/18/12 06:41 AM
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Nice car and combo I love it!! Nothing wrong with that carb in my book, ran almost the same numbers as my 1050 dominator on same day back to back tests with jetting on a 9 second car, and the 950 was snappier on the street. Beautiful Charger you should be proud! 
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
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10/18/12 05:59 PM
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Nice charger man! That thing is flying in my opinion, you should be proud!
As for the trans, no you are not making excuses- high rpm shifting issues are common with the TKO's. A friend of mine has a TKO500 in his vette, and at the track, shifting higher than 6200 was like hitting a wall. He called up Libtery, and they sold him a kit of parts (I believe it was a couple of carbon fiber lined synchros, bronze shift cup, and something for the shift rails I believe..) and he installed it all himself...He has driven it since, although not at the track, and he says it goes into gear at high rpms ALOT easier...TKO's are known for this problem, and any of the guys who deal with them (Liberty, Hanlon, etc.) can fix you up with the parts you need, or if you need them to install it, the service as well. When you call just tell what it is you need (the stuff for the TKO to shift higher)...just be careful with sending stuff to Liberty, as I hear you may not see it back for a while
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
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10/18/12 06:15 PM
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Absolutely awesome car, without a doubt the best B-body ever. I bet you were happier than a pig in poop after getting that 10.97 timeslip!!!
As mshred said, the high rpm shifting problem for 2nd and 3rd gear on the TKO's seems to be common. A few trans places have kits to fix it, some involve faceplating conversions but then it kinda sucks to drive on the street. It's also worth rechecking parallelism & runout on the bellhousing, and the air gap on the clutch.
One of our work cars was a generic Mustang with a 600-ish hp 427 SBF in it, in front of a TKO-600. It was notchy but powershifted like a champ. I think it had been sent to Liberty once to be modified, though.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: Chargerfan68]
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10/18/12 11:15 PM
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congratulations, you done good. what are your shift rpms? I never had luck shifting above 6500 with the TKO and it was hit or miss at 6000. 
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: oldiron]
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10/19/12 12:09 AM
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Thanks everyone....I am glad that it is not me with the shifting issue. Most times, it feels like I hit a wall trying to go into the 3rd gate. Just won't go in at all at 6700 . If I slow the shift up some (dropping the rpms) it will go in, but that is killing my et. I will be contacting Liberty for the upgrade parts to install. Overall, I am real happy with the performance of this motor and proud of it. Thanks again. I will be attaching the album of the outing with pics and vids for those who asked for more pics. Greg.
1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: mshred]
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10/19/12 02:51 AM
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Very nice car and excellent performance! That Charger is sweet man. Wes
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
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10/19/12 11:42 AM
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Congrats....awesome car and great working combo. That 60' is impressive for the weight  I have a 68 Charger that just recently squeaked into the 10's (10.99) with a 1.55 60' but i'm also 150lbs heavier @ 4200 raceweight.  Mine ran a 10.99@ 121.5mph and recently has gone as fast as 124 but traction has now become an issue. Might be time to consider some slicks and weight reduction.  Once the trans issues are worked out your's should go mid 10's i would think with that MPH Ron
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: firefighter3931]
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10/19/12 08:26 PM
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Congrats....awesome car and great working combo. That 60' is impressive for the weight
I have a 68 Charger that just recently squeaked into the 10's (10.99) with a 1.55 60' but i'm also 150lbs heavier @ 4200 raceweight.
Mine ran a 10.99@ 121.5mph and recently has gone as fast as 124 but traction has now become an issue. Might be time to consider some slicks and weight reduction.
Once the trans issues are worked out your's should go mid 10's i would think with that MPH
Ron
Ron, Your Charger is GREAT looking. Wow!!
My Charger runs as good as it does thanks to you! I used a Camshaft recomendation that you gave to someone on another board that I kept in my notes. After looking around and listening to everyone talking about cams for a stroker motor, I ended up using a recommendationt that you made for a 512 motor with slightly higher compression 11.5.
Mine is 10.4 , so I modified my LSA to 110 from 114 (I think you spec. for his engine).
If you recall, they were the 7071 and 7073 lobes from Comp solid XX family. I couldn't be happier with the performance.
So, Thank you for your wisdom...I always pay alot of attention to what you say on any post that I see you made.
'Respectfully,
Greg.
1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: RobX4406]
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10/22/12 12:57 AM
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Thanks very much. New question: the first 5 runs were made with the HP 950 Holley that was jetted up. I reached 10.98 @ 105.8 with that carb. I then switched to a new 1050 dom. 3 circuit jetted up and all 5 runs with this carb was between 105+ to 106.1 MPH. without any jet changes, it ran slightly faster than the tested/jetted 950. What is your guess to how much I can pick up with more testing/jetting up etc.. The plugs still looked very very light in color. I think it may have another 2MPH in it. What does your experiences say? Thanks.
1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger
[Re: Chargerfan68]
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10/22/12 08:16 AM
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Ron, Your Charger is GREAT looking. Wow!!
My Charger runs as good as it does thanks to you! I used a Camshaft recomendation that you gave to someone on another board that I kept in my notes. After looking around and listening to everyone talking about cams for a stroker motor, I ended up using a recommendationt that you made for a 512 motor with slightly higher compression 11.5.
Mine is 10.4 , so I modified my LSA to 110 from 114 (I think you spec. for his engine).
If you recall, they were the 7071 and 7073 lobes from Comp solid XX family. I couldn't be happier with the performance.
So, Thank you for your wisdom...I always pay alot of attention to what you say on any post that I see you made.
'Respectfully,
Greg.
Thanks for the kind words Greg !
Yep, those XX Comp solid lobes work real nice ! 
Luv those 68's and yours is a beauty
Ron
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What clutch is in it? 
nice and even 
I can remember more than one weekend at the track trying to make my car 60 ft. better, yours is much better than mine was back then 
