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Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: mshred] #1322119 10/18/12 06:15 PM 10/18/12 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,191 Plymouth, MI Blusmbl master
Blusmbl master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,191 Plymouth, MI	Absolutely awesome car, without a doubt the best B-body ever. I bet you were happier than a pig in poop after getting that 10.97 timeslip!!! As mshred said, the high rpm shifting problem for 2nd and 3rd gear on the TKO's seems to be common. A few trans places have kits to fix it, some involve faceplating conversions but then it kinda sucks to drive on the street. It's also worth rechecking parallelism & runout on the bellhousing, and the air gap on the clutch. One of our work cars was a generic Mustang with a 600-ish hp 427 SBF in it, in front of a TKO-600. It was notchy but powershifted like a champ. I think it had been sent to Liberty once to be modified, though. '18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322120 10/18/12 06:25 PM 10/18/12 06:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,620 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,620 long island NY	post some pics !!!!!! 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322121 10/18/12 11:15 PM 10/18/12 11:15 PM
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oldiron mopar O Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 690 New Hampshire, USA	congratulations, you done good. what are your shift rpms? I never had luck shifting above 6500 with the TKO and it was hit or miss at 6000. 66 Belvedere Vert, 4 Speed/Jerico, slowly, very slowly, getting faster - NA LD Wedge New New Best: 10.56 @129 68 B'cuda 4 gear Jerico - Another New Best of 9.86 & Trying to slow up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jDLKwd9Gs

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: oldiron] #1322122 10/19/12 12:09 AM 10/19/12 12:09 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Thanks everyone....I am glad that it is not me with the shifting issue. Most times, it feels like I hit a wall trying to go into the 3rd gate. Just won't go in at all at 6700 . If I slow the shift up some (dropping the rpms) it will go in, but that is killing my et. I will be contacting Liberty for the upgrade parts to install. Overall, I am real happy with the performance of this motor and proud of it. Thanks again. I will be attaching the album of the outing with pics and vids for those who asked for more pics. Greg. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Cab_Burge] #1322123 10/19/12 12:20 AM 10/19/12 12:20 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Quote: What gear lube are you suing in the trans? Do you heat the running gera up some before running it? I know NHRA stocker racers that do that in the pits on jackstands and then drive car to the staging lanes and cool the motor down just before running Also can you swith trans lubes to something slicker that may help make it shift better? I used straight ATF in my NP833 18 spline Hemi trans years ago to help make it shift better I can remember more than one weekend at the track trying to make my car 60 ft. better, yours is much better than mine was back then I do always heat the drivetrain up before running driving around the pits for a while. I use the suggested fluid for that tranny, which is GM Synchromesh fluid. Never deviated from it, but maybe I could try something different. Thanks. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Big Squeeze] #1322124 10/19/12 12:25 AM 10/19/12 12:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Quote: That's very respectable.. What clutch is in it? Thank you...I have a Spec Stage 3+. Absolutely great clutch. Never slipped once with all the runs I have put on it + all the street driving I have on it. Probably around 6-7,000 miles, + 51 track runs. Very happy with this clutch...an No, I don't work for them 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322125 10/19/12 12:37 AM 10/19/12 12:37 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Quote: That's very respectable.. What clutch is in it? Thank you...I have a Spec Stage 3+. Absolutely great clutch. Never slipped once with all the runs I have put on it + all the street driving I have on it. Probably around 6-7,000 miles, + 51 track runs. Very happy with this clutch...an No, I don't work for them What do you launch at? It's a single rag disc? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: mshred] #1322126 10/19/12 02:51 AM 10/19/12 02:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,341 Heaven EvilB1Dart master
EvilB1Dart master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,341 Heaven	Very nice car and excellent performance! That Charger is sweet man. Wes "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" - A. Einstein

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: EvilB1Dart] #1322127 10/19/12 03:36 AM 10/19/12 03:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	You know I dont know much at all about that trans as I only used the Mopar 833 trans when I bracket raced a 4-speed cars years ago. Now I dont want to sound like a wise guy so please dont take this the wrong way as you may already know if it helps or not. But in the early 80's when I was power shifting my 340 Dart with a stock 833 trans that ran high 11's I found it got harder to get it in gear when it hit low 12's and high 11's when I power shifted (you know never lifting the throttle through the full pass). Well since the tranny was stock I tried lifting the throttle a tad when shifting. I did it so fast that as I pushed in the clutch I lifted the gas pedal a tad and then slammed it right back on the floor before the clutch pedal was all the way out. Granted that 340 Dart was a full second slower but it really helped and did not slow down the car at all. I even ran a new best from 11.97 to 11.94 shifting that way and I was one who never wanted to lift the go pedal at all. But I would just do it timed real good with the clutch. As the clutch got slammed in with the left foot the right foot lifted the gas pedal maybe halfway as I slammed the shifter into the next gear the gas pedal was back on the floor before the clutch was all the way back out. It was not alot but it really helped it go in gear easier with that stock tranny and no kidding it did not slow me down one bit. I would shift that 340 about 6500 as it was nothing real fancy. We did not get 60 ft or 1/8 mile times on our time cards back then in the late 70's or early 80's and the car was a 66 Dart I had put a 340 in. Its best run was 11.94 @ 113. Good luck in that sweet Charger as you have the mph for at least 10.70's or better even at 2 tons. Ron

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: 383man] #1322128 10/19/12 11:42 AM 10/19/12 11:42 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,646 Ontario,Canada F firefighter3931 top fuel
firefighter3931 top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,646 Ontario,Canada	Congrats....awesome car and great working combo. That 60' is impressive for the weight I have a 68 Charger that just recently squeaked into the 10's (10.99) with a 1.55 60' but i'm also 150lbs heavier @ 4200 raceweight. Mine ran a 10.99@ 121.5mph and recently has gone as fast as 124 but traction has now become an issue. Might be time to consider some slicks and weight reduction. Once the trans issues are worked out your's should go mid 10's i would think with that MPH Ron 7427241-Pinks2A.jpg (75 downloads)

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: firefighter3931] #1322129 10/19/12 08:26 PM 10/19/12 08:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Quote: Congrats....awesome car and great working combo. That 60' is impressive for the weight I have a 68 Charger that just recently squeaked into the 10's (10.99) with a 1.55 60' but i'm also 150lbs heavier @ 4200 raceweight. Mine ran a 10.99@ 121.5mph and recently has gone as fast as 124 but traction has now become an issue. Might be time to consider some slicks and weight reduction. Once the trans issues are worked out your's should go mid 10's i would think with that MPH Ron Ron, Your Charger is GREAT looking. Wow!! My Charger runs as good as it does thanks to you! I used a Camshaft recomendation that you gave to someone on another board that I kept in my notes. After looking around and listening to everyone talking about cams for a stroker motor, I ended up using a recommendationt that you made for a 512 motor with slightly higher compression 11.5. Mine is 10.4 , so I modified my LSA to 110 from 114 (I think you spec. for his engine). If you recall, they were the 7071 and 7073 lobes from Comp solid XX family. I couldn't be happier with the performance. So, Thank you for your wisdom...I always pay alot of attention to what you say on any post that I see you made. 'Respectfully, Greg. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322130 10/20/12 01:48 AM 10/20/12 01:48 AM
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gsmopar super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,145 Arizona, USA	From one Greg with a 10-second charger to another: Congrats!!!

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Big Squeeze] #1322131 10/20/12 09:06 AM 10/20/12 09:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Quote: Quote: That's very respectable.. What clutch is in it? Thank you...I have a Spec Stage 3+. Absolutely great clutch. Never slipped once with all the runs I have put on it + all the street driving I have on it. Probably around 6-7,000 miles, + 51 track runs. Very happy with this clutch...an No, I don't work for them What do you launch at? It's a single rag disc? If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Big Squeeze] #1322132 10/20/12 12:02 PM 10/20/12 12:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: That's very respectable.. What clutch is in it? Thank you...I have a Spec Stage 3+. Absolutely great clutch. Never slipped once with all the runs I have put on it + all the street driving I have on it. Probably around 6-7,000 miles, + 51 track runs. Very happy with this clutch...an No, I don't work for them What do you launch at? It's a single rag disc? I launch at 6,000 and it is a single disc clutch. I think it is carbon metalic or something like that. It is copperish color. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322133 10/21/12 03:47 PM 10/21/12 03:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: That's very respectable.. What clutch is in it? Thank you...I have a Spec Stage 3+. Absolutely great clutch. Never slipped once with all the runs I have put on it + all the street driving I have on it. Probably around 6-7,000 miles, + 51 track runs. Very happy with this clutch...an No, I don't work for them What do you launch at? It's a single rag disc? I launch at 6,000 and it is a single disc clutch. I think it is carbon metalic or something like that. It is copperish color. Thanks... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Big Squeeze] #1322134 10/21/12 05:05 PM 10/21/12 05:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Nice run. congrats on the new best and hitting 10's.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: RobX4406] #1322135 10/22/12 12:57 AM 10/22/12 12:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA Chargerfan68 OP pro stock
Chargerfan68 OP pro stock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,265 New York, USA	Thanks very much. New question: the first 5 runs were made with the HP 950 Holley that was jetted up. I reached 10.98 @ 105.8 with that carb. I then switched to a new 1050 dom. 3 circuit jetted up and all 5 runs with this carb was between 105+ to 106.1 MPH. without any jet changes, it ran slightly faster than the tested/jetted 950. What is your guess to how much I can pick up with more testing/jetting up etc.. The plugs still looked very very light in color. I think it may have another 2MPH in it. What does your experiences say? Thanks. 1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.

Re: Finally hit the 10's with the Charger [Re: Chargerfan68] #1322136 10/22/12 08:16 AM 10/22/12 08:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,646 Ontario,Canada F firefighter3931 top fuel
firefighter3931 top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,646 Ontario,Canada	Quote: Ron, Your Charger is GREAT looking. Wow!! My Charger runs as good as it does thanks to you! I used a Camshaft recomendation that you gave to someone on another board that I kept in my notes. After looking around and listening to everyone talking about cams for a stroker motor, I ended up using a recommendationt that you made for a 512 motor with slightly higher compression 11.5. Mine is 10.4 , so I modified my LSA to 110 from 114 (I think you spec. for his engine). If you recall, they were the 7071 and 7073 lobes from Comp solid XX family. I couldn't be happier with the performance. So, Thank you for your wisdom...I always pay alot of attention to what you say on any post that I see you made. 'Respectfully, Greg. Thanks for the kind words Greg ! Yep, those XX Comp solid lobes work real nice ! Luv those 68's and yours is a beauty Ron

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