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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: Ramrod39] #1322043
10/19/12 07:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's closed at idle, otherwise it would act like a big vacuum leak.

Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: 1BAD68] #1322044
10/19/12 08:36 AM
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i have a 572 hemi.
i use cast breathers bolted to cast mopar valve covers. i have a single plane intake and the valve covers really aren't set up for pcv valves, so using a pcv system gets complicated.
i run a 10 or 12an, can't remember which, braided line line from the breather to the bottom of the air cleaner. seems to work ok.
if i used baffle in the valve cover i would get less oil thru the breathers. the only problem is there isn't enough room in the valve cover for that.

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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: 1BAD68] #1322045
10/19/12 12:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's closed at idle, otherwise it would act like a big vacuum leak.


That is real easy to check, start your motor up, pull the PCV out and put your finger over the hole in the bottom of the PCV and let us know if your motor speeds up or slows down blocking the PCV Let us know your results


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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: Cab_Burge] #1322046
10/19/12 12:59 PM
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Edit:
At idle the PCV is forced open from vacuum.
At high rpm's, the PCV closes.
Still don't know if it's a spring that closes it?

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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: 1BAD68] #1322047
10/19/12 01:24 PM
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I put about 5,ooo miles or so on my 383 and always had a oil pushing out the breather and trying to leak around the ends of the intake. I'm running an old set of MT valve covers that had no hole for a pcv. After pushing a valve cover gasket out a few weeks back I drilled the v/c for a pcv. END OF PROBLEMS! I never ran one before on aftermarket v/c's but from now on I'm not running without one.

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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: skicker] #1322048
10/19/12 02:43 PM
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They suck at idle.Pull one and see.As for pushing out a cover gasket you need a rebuild or better gaskets.Our cars get the h--l beat on them and I know the 62 with 50K has never been reringed etc.No problems ever.Rocky


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Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: Cab_Burge] #1322049
10/19/12 03:03 PM
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Quote:

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I'm pretty sure it's closed at idle, otherwise it would act like a big vacuum leak.


That is real easy to check, start your motor up, pull the PCV out and put your finger over the hole in the bottom of the PCV and let us know if your motor speeds up or slows down blocking the PCV Let us know your results




Of course it's going to speed up. It's a vacuum leak at idle. Most of them have an orfice to leak at idle regardless of vacuum.

Pull the pcv from cover, hook up a vacuum gauge to another port and observe what the gauge does when the pcv is attached, attached and covered and completely unplugged. Those observations should get you in the area of how it works and whether it's closed or open at high/idle vacuum situations.

Re: Do I have to run a pcv [Re: RobX4406] #1322050
10/19/12 06:57 PM
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PCV Valves are open at idle. One set of ring seal is to idle the engine, pull the breather and see if a piece of paper will get sucked down in the open hole by vacuum (obviously you have the PCV in place for this test).

If it doesn't get pulled down and seal the hole, or worse yet you see exhaust pulsing out the hole you have ring seal issues.


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