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Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? #1320179 10/14/12 02:44 PM 10/14/12 02:44 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	Which one do you prefer and why? Which shifter do you specifically use? Trying to decide, but have only driven a ratchet equipped reverse pattern car. I am planning on a trans brake reverse manual vb for my own car- does that make a difference to you guys as what you find better?

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320180 10/14/12 03:31 PM 10/14/12 03:31 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I have a gated style on the Rampage and a ratchet on the race car... wish I would have got a ratchet for the Rampage(I might change it).. both are B&M shifters.. the ratchet is much easier to use but the gate one I bought looks better(for a street rod)

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320181 10/14/12 03:35 PM 10/14/12 03:35 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	I had a TA Cheetah gated shifter and hated it. I lost the 4th round just 3 weeks ago pulling from 1st to 3rd, I've done that more than once. I just installed a B&M Pro Ratchet with a Hurst pistol grip, tried it out last week. I love it, no way you can miss a shift. But some swear by the TA shifter, you need to find a shifter that fits your style. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Adobedude] #1320182 10/14/12 03:44 PM 10/14/12 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	it's like what flavor ice cream, personally you couldn't give me a gated shifter...well actually you could, i would sell it and use the money towards anything else

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: jamesc] #1320183 10/14/12 03:48 PM 10/14/12 03:48 PM
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70Dart499 member 7 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 153 Plant city fl	Quote: it's like what flavor ice cream, personally you couldn't give me a gated shifter...well actually you could, i would sell it and use the money towards anything else Yeah, its all a matter of personal preference. You couldn't give me a ratchet sifter, but some guys love them. 1970 Dart Drag Car

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 70Dart499] #1320184 10/14/12 03:53 PM 10/14/12 03:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	with a reverse pattern gated shifter you would be shifting towards yourself just like a ratchet, right? My worries with gated shifters- might overshift while pulling back (if possible), and have to grab a lever on some for the 2-3rd gear change which I find kinda weird

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 70Dart499] #1320185 10/14/12 03:55 PM 10/14/12 03:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism	I have nothing but trouble with ratchet shifters because of hanging up and it takes both hands to get them free.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 70Dart499] #1320186 10/14/12 03:57 PM 10/14/12 03:57 PM
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ProStDodge master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,586 Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana	If you asked everyone with a gated shifter if they ever unintentionally went 1st to 3rd, nearly every one will admit to it "once or twice". Those odds are not good for me, as I am sure it would happen in the later rounds which I rarely see anyway. I did win a race when my opponent missed the 1-2 shift and went to 3rd. With a ratchet shifter, it is 1 gear at a time, every time.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 52savoy] #1320187 10/14/12 03:59 PM 10/14/12 03:59 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	Quote: I have nothing but trouble with ratchet shifters because of hanging up and it takes both hands to get them free. what do you mean by "hanging up"?

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320188 10/14/12 04:01 PM 10/14/12 04:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism	They either get stuck in park or reverse.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Adobedude] #1320189 10/14/12 04:02 PM 10/14/12 04:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I had a TA Cheetah gated shifter and hated it. I lost the 4th round just 3 weeks ago pulling from 1st to 3rd, I've done that more than once. I just installed a B&M Pro Ratchet with a Hurst pistol grip, tried it out last week. I love it, no way you can miss a shift. But some swear by the TA shifter, you need to find a shifter that fits your style. The Pro Ratchet is what I have also... love it.. I use 3 fingers to shift

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320190 10/14/12 04:28 PM 10/14/12 04:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	I like the Precision performance shifter http://www.precisionperformance.com/home.htm set up as a rear exit pushing to up shift (with a RMVB) lower right in pic "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320191 10/14/12 04:43 PM 10/14/12 04:43 PM
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Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Watch the video in my signature, that's absolutley NOT the way to use a Cheetah shifter, you are supposed to slap it...But I just have to grab onto the thing, and that's why it would not work for me. I went with a Pro Ratchet because you just pull it to shift, no levers to pull, you just pull it one click to shift and the Hurst pistol handle makes it that much better. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 52savoy] #1320192 10/14/12 04:52 PM 10/14/12 04:52 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	Quote: They either get stuck in park or reverse. yikes, thats no good...this is common??

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Just-a-dart] #1320193 10/14/12 04:54 PM 10/14/12 04:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	Quote: I like the Precision performance shifter http://www.precisionperformance.com/home.htm set up as a rear exit pushing to up shift (with a RMVB) lower right in pic my brother bought one of those for his T-400 poncho, but has yet to run it...funky lookin thing, but looks like it would work nice...kinda expensive though. If I was to go gated I was thinking that or a hurst quarter stick

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Adobedude] #1320194 10/14/12 04:55 PM 10/14/12 04:55 PM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto M mshred OP master
mshred OP master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,427 Toronto	Quote: Watch the video in my signature, that's absolutley NOT the way to use a Cheetah shifter, you are supposed to slap it...But I just have to grab onto the thing, and that's why it would not work for me. I went with a Pro Ratchet because you just pull it to shift, no levers to pull, you just pull it one click to shift and the Hurst pistol handle makes it that much better. for some reason I have heard a lot of guys say the cheetah is easy to overshift or miss with. I have never seen one in person though to look at the construction of it as to why. Is it much different from other gated shifters?

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320195 10/14/12 05:08 PM 10/14/12 05:08 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: They either get stuck in park or reverse. yikes, thats no good...this is common?? Sure isnt common with the Pro Ratchet(I've never heard of this issue)... I have NEVER missed a shift

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1320196 10/14/12 05:13 PM 10/14/12 05:13 PM
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Spaceman Spiff master S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey	PUSHBUTTONS. Just push the right one!! 526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320197 10/14/12 05:39 PM 10/14/12 05:39 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	The TA Cheeetah is an awesome shifter in th right hands. Used correctly you slap it for each shift, there's a spring that moves the lever over into the proper position and you just slap it again...I could never get it right, even tried a couple different gates. In Test and Tune I shifted it perfectly, but put some points and money on the line in the later rounds.... After blowing the last points race I pulled it out, I fought that thing for 3 years...Love the Pro Ratchet 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 52savoy] #1320198 10/14/12 05:42 PM 10/14/12 05:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: They either get stuck in park or reverse. My Hurst Pro-matic ratchet shifter has worked flawlessly for 14+ years.........so easy a caveman could shift it. Last edited by Thumperdart; 10/15/12 11:43 AM. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Thumperdart] #1320199 10/14/12 06:13 PM 10/14/12 06:13 PM
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rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,410 Ambridge, Pa.	x2. keep it lubed, works perfectly. best one i ever used.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Thumperdart] #1320200 10/14/12 06:56 PM 10/14/12 06:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,266 State of Fascism	Quote: Quote: They either get stuck in park or reverse. My B&M ratchet shifter has worked flawlessly for 14+ years.........so easy a caveman could shift it. maybe that's my problem. I 'm not a caveman. I quit using it years ago out of frustration and it's put up. I had another one years earlier that did the same thing and I gave it away. Went back to pushbuttons('65 tranny) so it's not an issue now.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Thumperdart] #1320201 10/14/12 07:02 PM 10/14/12 07:02 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Caveman...That would be me. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Adobedude] #1320202 10/14/12 09:05 PM 10/14/12 09:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	B&M Pro Ratchet. as close to a slap stick as you can get Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: sixpackgut] #1320203 10/14/12 09:18 PM 10/14/12 09:18 PM
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b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	B&M Stealth Pro Ratchet with Pistol Grip for me, never missed a shift. Best shifter I have ever owned.

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: sixpackgut] #1320204 10/14/12 09:34 PM 10/14/12 09:34 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,352 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,352 Bend,OR USA	I've bought, used and race both types of most of the popular brands out there. I now have a used Winters shifters in my Duster and another used Fairbanks for the new race car, 1965 Dart. T/A uses the same basic shifter as the Winters/Fairbanks except they are rear exit cables and sideways mounted shift linkage, it is a H.D. garbage truck shifter to start with(1/4 inch Morse cable, not a 1/8 inch diameter cable :thumb) and then made into a kit for race cars The T/A units are front mounted cable exit and hook onto the shift arms like all the other front shifted cable shifters. I have shifted it into 2nd gear when I left my hand on the shifter handle when I hit the throttle in first gear, probally several other racers on here have also Once you learn to stiffen your arm up enough to take a 1G+ launch your golden I've done the same thing on a ratchet shifter also I have never shifted mine into high gear from first I know of several other Mopar racers that would have bought the new Winters/Fairbanks shifters according to them but they where to much money for them at that time One of them has since replaced his B&M (maybe it was a Hurst) ratchet shifter because he wore it out, in 13YRS+ racing The H.D. truck units don't wear out Bottom line is it is up to you to decide which one you want Good luck Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1320205 10/14/12 09:50 PM 10/14/12 09:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 Akron, Ohio ProSport I Live Here
ProSport I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 Akron, Ohio	Just watch Pass Time every week and you'll have your answer. It's amazing how many automatic cars miss a shift on that show. I always run the B&M Pro Ratchet, impossible to ever miss a shift. 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1320206 10/14/12 09:52 PM 10/14/12 09:52 PM
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sunroofgtx I Live Here Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 12,129 Cleveland	I want this ever so badly for the racecar. 7421113-shifter.jpg (1594 downloads) Join the quickest team in motorsports. Team FireCore. CustomWiresets.com

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: sunroofgtx] #1320207 10/15/12 03:25 AM 10/15/12 03:25 AM
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HOTMOPR mopar Joined: May 2011 Posts: 625 Oakville, Wa	B&M Pro Ratchet here as well! I love it. You cant miss a shift! 67 Barracuda, 470" B, Glide, FuelTech FT600, Precision, Ptc, QA1, Calvert, Smith racecraft, Afco, Dana 60. 275 radials

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 52savoy] #1320208 10/15/12 11:44 AM 10/15/12 11:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Quote: They either get stuck in park or reverse. My Hurst Pro-matic ratchet shifter has worked flawlessly for 14+ years.........so easy a caveman could shift it. maybe that's my problem. I 'm not a caveman. I quit using it years ago out of frustration and it's put up. I had another one years earlier that did the same thing and I gave it away. Went back to pushbuttons('65 tranny) so it's not an issue now. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320209 10/15/12 11:50 AM 10/15/12 11:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I like my B&M Quicksilver. Ratchet Action! [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

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