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Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? #1320179
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Which one do you prefer and why? Which shifter do you specifically use? Trying to decide, but have only driven a ratchet equipped reverse pattern car. I am planning on a trans brake reverse manual vb for my own car- does that make a difference to you guys as what you find better?

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320180
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I have a gated style on the Rampage and a ratchet on
the race car... wish I would have got a ratchet for
the Rampage(I might change it).. both are B&M shifters..
the ratchet is much easier to use but the gate one I
bought looks better(for a street rod)

Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320181
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I had a TA Cheetah gated shifter and hated it. I lost the 4th round just 3 weeks ago pulling from 1st to 3rd, I've done that more than once.

I just installed a B&M Pro Ratchet with a Hurst pistol grip, tried it out last week. I love it, no way you can miss a shift. But some swear by the TA shifter, you need to find a shifter that fits your style.


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Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: Adobedude] #1320182
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it's like what flavor ice cream, personally you couldn't give me a gated shifter...well actually you could, i would sell it and use the money towards anything else

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it's like what flavor ice cream, personally you couldn't give me a gated shifter...well actually you could, i would sell it and use the money towards anything else




Yeah, its all a matter of personal preference. You couldn't give me a ratchet sifter, but some guys love them.


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with a reverse pattern gated shifter you would be shifting towards yourself just like a ratchet, right?

My worries with gated shifters- might overshift while pulling back (if possible), and have to grab a lever on some for the 2-3rd gear change which I find kinda weird

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I have nothing but trouble with ratchet shifters because of hanging up and it takes both hands to get them free.

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If you asked everyone with a gated shifter if they ever unintentionally went 1st to 3rd, nearly every one will admit to it "once or twice". Those odds are not good for me, as I am sure it would happen in the later rounds which I rarely see anyway. I did win a race when my opponent missed the 1-2 shift and went to 3rd.

With a ratchet shifter, it is 1 gear at a time, every time.

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I have nothing but trouble with ratchet shifters because of hanging up and it takes both hands to get them free.




what do you mean by "hanging up"?

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They either get stuck in park or reverse.

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I had a TA Cheetah gated shifter and hated it. I lost the 4th round just 3 weeks ago pulling from 1st to 3rd, I've done that more than once.

I just installed a B&M Pro Ratchet with a Hurst pistol grip, tried it out last week. I love it, no way you can miss a shift. But some swear by the TA shifter, you need to find a shifter that fits your style.




The Pro Ratchet is what I have also... love it..
I use 3 fingers to shift

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I like the Precision performance shifter http://www.precisionperformance.com/home.htm set up as a rear exit pushing to up shift (with a RMVB)
lower right in pic



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Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: mshred] #1320191
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Watch the video in my signature, that's absolutley NOT the way to use a Cheetah shifter, you are supposed to slap it...But I just have to grab onto the thing, and that's why it would not work for me.

I went with a Pro Ratchet because you just pull it to shift, no levers to pull, you just pull it one click to shift and the Hurst pistol handle makes it that much better.


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Re: Gated or ratchet shifter better for racing? [Re: 52savoy] #1320192
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They either get stuck in park or reverse.




yikes, thats no good...this is common??

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I like the Precision performance shifter http://www.precisionperformance.com/home.htm set up as a rear exit pushing to up shift (with a RMVB)
lower right in pic





my brother bought one of those for his T-400 poncho, but has yet to run it...funky lookin thing, but looks like it would work nice...kinda expensive though. If I was to go gated I was thinking that or a hurst quarter stick

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Watch the video in my signature, that's absolutley NOT the way to use a Cheetah shifter, you are supposed to slap it...But I just have to grab onto the thing, and that's why it would not work for me.

I went with a Pro Ratchet because you just pull it to shift, no levers to pull, you just pull it one click to shift and the Hurst pistol handle makes it that much better.




for some reason I have heard a lot of guys say the cheetah is easy to overshift or miss with. I have never seen one in person though to look at the construction of it as to why. Is it much different from other gated shifters?

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They either get stuck in park or reverse.




yikes, thats no good...this is common??




Sure isnt common with the Pro Ratchet(I've never heard
of this issue)... I have NEVER missed a shift

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The TA Cheeetah is an awesome shifter in th right hands. Used correctly you slap it for each shift, there's a spring that moves the lever over into the proper position and you just slap it again...I could never get it right, even tried a couple different gates. In Test and Tune I shifted it perfectly, but put some points and money on the line in the later rounds....

After blowing the last points race I pulled it out, I fought that thing for 3 years...Love the Pro Ratchet


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They either get stuck in park or reverse.


My Hurst Pro-matic ratchet shifter has worked flawlessly for 14+ years.........so easy a caveman could shift it.

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