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Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing #1316826 10/07/12 08:22 PM 10/07/12 08:22 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Well today did not go well, and the hemi is hurt. Last edited by Dragula; 10/07/12 08:23 PM. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316827 10/07/12 08:25 PM 10/07/12 08:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 52 niagara, ontario G gers1968rt member
gers1968rt member G Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 52 niagara, ontario	I hope it is not fatal. What happened? Yesterday I ran the charger at cayuga and ran a best of 8.479 in the 1/8th at 85.73 mph, everything is ok. and yes, it's a hemi. Last edited by gers1968rt; 10/07/12 08:28 PM.

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: gers1968rt] #1316828 10/07/12 08:34 PM 10/07/12 08:34 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	It went a 6.95, before something let go.. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316829 10/07/12 09:00 PM 10/07/12 09:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Boy Randy, I hope it's not serious, what happened? Dave

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: quickd100] #1316830 10/07/12 09:46 PM 10/07/12 09:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing Don't tell that to Charlie Westcott and the guys making 1,000hp plus per cylinder in Top Fuel... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Big Squeeze] #1316831 10/07/12 09:52 PM 10/07/12 09:52 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	I don't know what happened. Everything on the top end is fine. Something on the bottom end is definitely toast. Right now, until we pull the engine back out, I am only guessing. It 60ft'd real good with a 1.56, but it layed over at the top of 2nd and in 3rd on the 6.9 run. Not sure what we hurt, but its pretty bad, it was making a racket. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316832 10/08/12 01:38 AM 10/08/12 01:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	No windows though by the sound of it? Sheldon

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1316833 10/08/12 01:48 AM 10/08/12 01:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Maybe spun a Rod bearing? Hopefully its not too bad. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Triple Threat] #1316834 10/08/12 06:57 AM 10/08/12 06:57 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Maybe spun a Rod bearing? Hopefully its not too bad. I know we did that....Why, is the big question? Last edited by Dragula; 10/08/12 09:37 AM. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316835 10/08/12 09:30 AM 10/08/12 09:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 S.E. Michigan	Sorry to hear that Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: ZIPPY] #1316836 10/08/12 09:36 AM 10/08/12 09:36 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Zippy, What is the biggest crank I can swing in one of these blocks using 2.2 rod journal? I figured I would ask just in case I need to shop for a new bottom end. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316837 10/08/12 09:53 AM 10/08/12 09:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish master
bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i got a great runnin little wedge ill trade ya.

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316838 10/08/12 10:13 AM 10/08/12 10:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,926 S.E. Michigan	Somebody may have gone bigger yet, but the biggest I have heard of so far is 4.75. Muscle motors sells a crate engine set up like that: http://www.musclemotorsracing.com/engines/king-krate.html Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: ZIPPY] #1316839 10/08/12 10:16 AM 10/08/12 10:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	I have heard that, it gets real close with the 4.75 around the cam if its not raised. I believe a small base circle cam needs to be used at that point.

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: bonefish] #1316840 10/08/12 10:45 AM 10/08/12 10:45 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula OP I Live Here
Dragula OP I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,422 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: i got a great runnin little wedge ill trade ya. Thanks, but I am going to make this engine work, one way or another! '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Dragula] #1316841 10/08/12 01:58 PM 10/08/12 01:58 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 224 in the middle D dodger mope enthusiast
dodger mope enthusiast D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 224 in the middle	Oh no...dont tell John Force Racing!

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: dodger mope] #1316842 10/08/12 03:15 PM 10/08/12 03:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Randy; on a standard height cam block stock or siamese, a 4.75 will clear (2.2 pins). If you're running a roller you definately have to degree the cam in. If you didn't have to worry about cam lobes a 5" would rotate. Dave

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Big Squeeze] #1316843 10/08/12 05:48 PM 10/08/12 05:48 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio kissmyaspen pro stock
kissmyaspen pro stock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio	Quote: Quote: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing Don't tell that to Charlie Westcott and the guys making 1,000hp plus per cylinder in Top Fuel... a fuel motor last about 3 minutes if that before it gets rebuilt. thats warm-up, burnout, back up and pass ... and i would say the SS/AH cars probably go about 30 passes before a rebuild. 79 Dodge Aspen 12.265 at 109.75 MPH 67 Satellite NSS/E 11.83 @ 110 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi 3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street. '07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: kissmyaspen] #1316844 10/08/12 07:13 PM 10/08/12 07:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: Quote: Quote: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing Don't tell that to Charlie Westcott and the guys making 1,000hp plus per cylinder in Top Fuel... a fuel motor last about 3 minutes if that before it gets rebuilt. thats warm-up, burnout, back up and pass ... and i would say the SS/AH cars probably go about 30 passes before a rebuild. Sooooo, what's your point???? fuel motors go over 8K and make 1,000 per cylinder...SS/AH motors are making over 900hp and zing to 10K with only 431 cubes....his motor doesn't go over 7K and makes about 700hp so it's not because it's a Hemi that its having issues.. If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing [Re: Big Squeeze] #1316845 10/08/12 07:51 PM 10/08/12 07:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,397 Pa Hot 340 master
Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,397 Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Wedge motors are for racing, Hemis are for showing Don't tell that to Charlie Westcott and the guys making 1,000hp plus per cylinder in Top Fuel... a fuel motor last about 3 minutes if that before it gets rebuilt. thats warm-up, burnout, back up and pass ... and i would say the SS/AH cars probably go about 30 passes before a rebuild. Sooooo, what's your point???? fuel motors go over 8K and make 1,000 per cylinder...SS/AH motors are making over 900hp and zing to 10K with only 431 cubes....his motor doesn't go over 7K and makes about 700hp so it's not because it's a Hemi that its having issues.. Seriously, he's probably just venting, not really ripping on hemi's. Chill.

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