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How to delete this topic all together? I was just wondering has anyone heard from him I knew he has some history of health problems that had came up ? Jeff contacted me and I was very satisfied.
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Re: modern cyl head
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I donno but i've repeatedly asked for a bill and have never received one. Last email he said he set them aside and forgot about them. Im not knockin his work!! It just been 2 yrs. i also asked to finish them or send them back. And recently i asked him to just get them to muscle motors so mike can send them back to me with a motor hes finishing for me. That was a month ago. Mike hasnt received them yet either. Im not pissed off i just want my heads back. Finished or not. And i think its fair that people be warned!! Thats it! Again im not knockin his work! Hes one of the best there is!! 
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Re: modern cyl head
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I donno but i've repeatedly asked for a bill and have never received one. Last email he said he set them aside and forgot about them. Im not knockin his work!! It just been 2 yrs. i also asked to finish them or send them back. And recently i asked him to just get them to muscle motors so mike can send them back to me with a motor hes finishing for me. That was a month ago. Mike hasnt received them yet either. Im not pissed off i just want my heads back. Finished or not. And i think its fair that people be warned!! Thats it! Again im not knockin his work! Hes one of the best there is!!
I saw this thread when it was first posted and have been thinking about it all day.
I have NO issues with Jeff's work, it's as good as it gets. I had a somewhat similar experience though. Work was promised in 2-3 weeks. After almost 2 months without any communication from MCH I e-mailed him to enquire about my heads. I recieved an e-mail shortly stating they'd be done in a few days. Waited another month without any response from MCH. I finally fired off another e-mail and told him if I didn't hear from him within a couple days I'd be on his doorstep to pick up my heads done or not the following week.(800 miles one way too) He got back to me a couple days later and promised they'd be done middle of the next week. The next Thursday I e-mailed again and he responded saying they'd ship the next day which they were.
I recieved them and the work he did was flawless, and the price was more than fair. The problem was I'd sent them to him for a full port job and instead I got a bowl blend and only picked up 25cfm. I could have just as well have sent them to the local guy for what I got done.
I'm a very patient and understanding man. I understand Jeff is always swamped and I'm more than willing to wait my turn in line. But I know several members here that sent their heads to Jeff long after mine were already at his shop. They had their heads back right away while mine were collecting dust in a corner of his shop. If he didn't want the job in the first place I wish he'd said something up front and I'd contacted another shop.
I wish Jeff well and I hope his health improves, and hope he has a great life. If I need anymore headwork done though I'll be looking somewhere else. Dave 
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Re: modern cyl head
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10/11/12 10:26 PM
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
Now correct me if i'm wrong  but does Jeff hand ports these heads or he has an cnc program?That probably explain why there's guys that has had there heads in his shop for months.
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Re: modern cyl head
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
Now correct me if i'm wrong but does Jeff hand ports these heads or he has an cnc program?That probably explain why there's guys that has had there heads in his shop for months.
Hand porting is only needed on the first set. Once the ports are digitized the program is on file and it's mostly a matter of letting the machine do its thing.
I'm pretty sure Jeff also does brand X heads and if he has to hand port every example of every new head that comes out I can see where he gets held up. Just think of all the new SBC heads out there that have to be digitized.
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Re: modern cyl head
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
Now correct me if i'm wrong but does Jeff hand ports these heads or he has an cnc program?That probably explain why there's guys that has had there heads in his shop for months.
That may be, when I first contacted him I told him EXACTLY what set of heads I had and what I wanted done. He said the typical turnaround was 2-3 weeks. If he's said he couldn't get at them right away that would have been fine with me, I'd have gone shopping for a shop that could get them done in a timely fashion. Dave
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Re: modern cyl head
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10/12/12 04:39 PM
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WOW I was reading this as I have for years and the only thing that comes to mind is sheep. One gets so caught up in thinking that this guy is the only person that can do heads or can do them the best.I have not or will ever send a head Mopar or any other brand I have to him as I have read his posts over the years.When he was sick how many posts were there to support him? and yet he is to busy to get back with you.Two years and Mopartoby is still nice to him bigger man than I.He did have the time to post on the Airwolf post and from what I read I quess he saw competion in the head buisness for a lower price so of course those heads are worthless. I dont ever recall Quickd100 posting anything bad about anyone.T-boomer said one man shop,well if one has to much work tell the customer so or better yet hire someone for help. ba-ba
When you can provide the quality, performance, value and trophies that his work provides then I'll use you.
Sure, other guys can hand port heads, sometimes with matching or better results, but those guys are few and far between. Their numbers are happy or the heads crack. Jeff's work is consistent and his numbers aren't inflated.
Are hand porters going to flow every port to ensure consistency? If so, how much extra time is that going to cost?
While Jeff's machine is running he's assembling heads, doing valves, etc. When a hand porter is porting heads he can't do other work. This efficiency shows up in Jeff's pricing, which I find to be very reasonable for the performance gain. A sole proprietor that is on the phone or computer all day isn't working on your heads.
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Re: modern cyl head
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10/12/12 04:54 PM
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
Now correct me if i'm wrong but does Jeff hand ports these heads or he has an cnc program?That probably explain why there's guys that has had there heads in his shop for months.
Yes cnc ported.
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Re: modern cyl head
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10/13/12 01:57 AM
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WOW I was reading this as I have for years and the only thing that comes to mind is sheep. One gets so caught up in thinking that this guy is the only person that can do heads or can do them the best.I have not or will ever send a head Mopar or any other brand I have to him as I have read his posts over the years.When he was sick how many posts were there to support him? and yet he is to busy to get back with you.Two years and Mopartoby is still nice to him bigger man than I.He did have the time to post on the Airwolf post and from what I read I quess he saw competion in the head buisness for a lower price so of course those heads are worthless. I dont ever recall Quickd100 posting anything bad about anyone.T-boomer said one man shop,well if one has to much work tell the customer so or better yet hire someone for help. ba-ba
Im pretty sure we ain't sheep. Last i checked all mopar lovers march to the beat of their own drum! As for being nice i could show you some of the emails i've sent  . I'd fly down there and get them myself but your homeland security says im not allowed in your country. 
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It's been a few years since I had mine done, two sets of Eddys about 1 year apart. Both sets were on my doorstep before the work was even paid for. Maybe I was lucky.
He did the same to my 572-13 heads. Cnc ported them and they arrived before I even paid for them.
Now correct me if i'm wrong but does Jeff hand ports these heads or he has an cnc program?That probably explain why there's guys that has had there heads in his shop for months.
Yes cnc ported.
Nice #'s 
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Re: modern cyl head
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10/14/12 10:33 AM
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I wonder why he doesn't answer the phone… Because he's too busy working! And I bet everytime that phone rings it adds a little stress to his day!  I have a friend that does chassis work that is a Da-Vinci with moly tubing, but stops welding and answers the phone with a very negative attitude because his precious time is wasted. Usually loses the job with his bad attitude! I joked with him that he needs a big breasted girl to answer the phone, deal with the customers and tell him which order to finish the work, first in-first out, LOL!!!  If your done waiting for Jeff, pick your heads up and take them to another top of the line porter and wait a couple years there. Now your at the end of another very long line… There's a good Australian head porter here in Jersey that I had heads reported there for a different project. Two years...  and yes I would call him sporadically, but with all the work on his plate there is just not enough hours in a day. And yeah in the end, big numbers and worth the wait  And do you want a novice learning on your heads to help him for a faster turn-around ? One error and the head went from killer to junk. Jeff has to do almost everything by himself. The bottom line is that Jeff is one smart and gifted mo-fo, and worth the wait
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Re: modern cyl head
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So.....who wood one recommend for -1's porting other than modern 
Pettis............760-244-4415................
Thump is there a web-site for pettis?
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Give it a shot...........personally I`d call and talk to Jason...........
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this must be a bash jeff fest.... well let me say i havent had a great last 2 years with health issues,, it looks up from here out,, but i did get behind... will i sacrifice some quality or level of care or treatment to get somebodies heads done,,, no,, they will have to wait a week or two or whatever,, does that mean mr stage 6 guy should wait two years no,, im sorry for that...ill get that worked out,, now with mike from muscle motors,, he is a friend and i talk to him often...
mr thumperdart,, you live in california,, how coul dyou work for me in michigan? youll move here for an entry level job?
the guy with the hemi heads who said he wanted them fully ported,, you told me how much power you wanted to make,, i gave you a head that would support that,, i felt bad for you that you paid somebody to do work to them that didnt matter and would have to pay me to do it all over again,, but then you should have bought them from somebody who knows something,, or anything about cylinder heads
sheep,,, thats a joke.....
with my health issues its just me at my shop,, im going to resolve that first of the year or around,, its hard to keep an employee or two while not being here or having no energy,, or other physical limiting things going on.... plus i have to raise my prices since i cannot hire somebody who can work as fast as i can,, and my work is set of hourly prices with me working on it,,,, if i do something that takes 2 hrs,, and i get 125 for it,, i hire a guy,, he takes 5 hrs to do it,, i have to get 200 to even try to make any money paying him 20 or whatever,, its hard for me to charge a guy like that...
anything else?
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The first part I will chaulk up as [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] happens. Paying an employee, well I would take minimum wage to learn what you have lodge between your ears. Matt
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this must be a bash jeff fest.... well let me say i havent had a great last 2 years with health issues,, it looks up from here out,, but i did get behind... will i sacrifice some quality or level of care or treatment to get somebodies heads done,,, no,, they will have to wait a week or two or whatever,, does that mean mr stage 6 guy should wait two years no,, im sorry for that...ill get that worked out,, now with mike from muscle motors,, he is a friend and i talk to him often...
mr thumperdart,, you live in california,, how coul dyou work for me in michigan? youll move here for an entry level job?
the guy with the hemi heads who said he wanted them fully ported,, you told me how much power you wanted to make,, i gave you a head that would support that,, i felt bad for you that you paid somebody to do work to them that didnt matter and would have to pay me to do it all over again,, but then you should have bought them from somebody who knows something,, or anything about cylinder heads
sheep,,, thats a joke.....
with my health issues its just me at my shop,, im going to resolve that first of the year or around,, its hard to keep an employee or two while not being here or having no energy,, or other physical limiting things going on.... plus i have to raise my prices since i cannot hire somebody who can work as fast as i can,, and my work is set of hourly prices with me working on it,,,, if i do something that takes 2 hrs,, and i get 125 for it,, i hire a guy,, he takes 5 hrs to do it,, i have to get 200 to even try to make any money paying him 20 or whatever,, its hard for me to charge a guy like that...
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Jeff.....glad you straightened this out......I know when I'm ready your the only one I'll trust with my heads.....I fully understand your position. I too had health issues thatxthreatened my life.....it takes time to bounce back.....and quality has no time limit......
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this must be a bash jeff fest.... well let me say i havent had a great last 2 years with health issues,, it looks up from here out,, but i did get behind... will i sacrifice some quality or level of care or treatment to get somebodies heads done,,, no,, they will have to wait a week or two or whatever,, does that mean mr stage 6 guy should wait two years no,, im sorry for that...ill get that worked out,, now with mike from muscle motors,, he is a friend and i talk to him often...
mr thumperdart,, you live in california,, how coul dyou work for me in michigan? youll move here for an entry level job?
the guy with the hemi heads who said he wanted them fully ported,, you told me how much power you wanted to make,, i gave you a head that would support that,, i felt bad for you that you paid somebody to do work to them that didnt matter and would have to pay me to do it all over again,, but then you should have bought them from somebody who knows something,, or anything about cylinder heads
sheep,,, thats a joke.....
with my health issues its just me at my shop,, im going to resolve that first of the year or around,, its hard to keep an employee or two while not being here or having no energy,, or other physical limiting things going on.... plus i have to raise my prices since i cannot hire somebody who can work as fast as i can,, and my work is set of hourly prices with me working on it,,,, if i do something that takes 2 hrs,, and i get 125 for it,, i hire a guy,, he takes 5 hrs to do it,, i have to get 200 to even try to make any money paying him 20 or whatever,, its hard for me to charge a guy like that...
anything else?
jeff
Yes sir I would definately consider it and consider it an honor to learn as much as I could in addition to what I know now to become an asset to everyone who wants the best...........I will call you tomorrow or since you`re busy you can call me when time permits at 760-900-3895...........peace!
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this must be a bash jeff fest.... well let me say i havent had a great last 2 years with health issues,, it looks up from here out,, but i did get behind... will i sacrifice some quality or level of care or treatment to get somebodies heads done,,, no,, they will have to wait a week or two or whatever,, does that mean mr stage 6 guy should wait two years no,, im sorry for that...ill get that worked out,, now with mike from muscle motors,, he is a friend and i talk to him often...
mr thumperdart,, you live in california,, how coul dyou work for me in michigan? youll move here for an entry level job?
the guy with the hemi heads who said he wanted them fully ported,, you told me how much power you wanted to make,, i gave you a head that would support that,, i felt bad for you that you paid somebody to do work to them that didnt matter and would have to pay me to do it all over again,, but then you should have bought them from somebody who knows something,, or anything about cylinder heads
sheep,,, thats a joke.....
with my health issues its just me at my shop,, im going to resolve that first of the year or around,, its hard to keep an employee or two while not being here or having no energy,, or other physical limiting things going on.... plus i have to raise my prices since i cannot hire somebody who can work as fast as i can,, and my work is set of hourly prices with me working on it,,,, if i do something that takes 2 hrs,, and i get 125 for it,, i hire a guy,, he takes 5 hrs to do it,, i have to get 200 to even try to make any money paying him 20 or whatever,, its hard for me to charge a guy like that...
anything else?
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Re: modern cyl head
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You could say a lot more???? Please do
If I remember you said you wanted 800 hp or something,, I thought I could give you the head to do that without redoing everything bob sold you,, you got your heads,, 6 months or so later you got it going and dynod it and it made what you wanted,, did you have somebody report them? You wanted to pay a grand for that extra 10 hp,, I didn't think your combo/ cam/ manifold/ would recognize or use "437" cfm
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