Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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71 360 Demon 10.7 to 1 comp, Eddy CNC heads by Modern Cylinder Heads, Hughes Solid Lifter Cam old model 256/265 with .630 lift with 1.6 crane roller rockers.
Mopar M1 single plane with holley 950...MP race distributor with msd 6al, hooker 1 3/4 headers.
904 trans with 2.74/1.54 gear set and Tranzact TransBrake, Turbo Action 3800 series converter flashes to 4700 rpm, 4.56 rear gear with 29.5 M/T slicks.
3000 lbs with driver...
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60 ft 1.468 1/8 6.745 @ 101.30 10.72 @ 120.48
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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To be competitive in a 10.90 index class either you have to be capable of 10.70-10.80, or just 10.90 and make all perfect passes.
Yes, I am aware of that. My plan was to spray it till I hit 10.70's 10.80's, then try to come down on the tune and get it as close as possible to 10.90. My reaction times are spot on, it was my missing shifts that hurt my consistency...but that shouldn't be an issue with the automatic im putting in
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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71 360 Demon 10.7 to 1 comp, Eddy CNC heads by Modern Cylinder Heads, Hughes Solid Lifter Cam old model 256/265 with .630 lift with 1.6 crane roller rockers.
Mopar M1 single plane with holley 950...MP race distributor with msd 6al, hooker 1 3/4 headers.
904 trans with 2.74/1.54 gear set and Tranzact TransBrake, Turbo Action 3800 series converter flashes to 4700 rpm, 4.56 rear gear with 29.5 M/T slicks.
3000 lbs with driver...
Ran best
60 ft 1.468 1/8 6.745 @ 101.30 10.72 @ 120.48
thats moving real good! If only I could get my car lighter- there isn't much for me to pull off of it, so im kinda stuck where I am...If anything, it will be getting heavier when I add a cage to the car.
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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09/21/12 07:07 PM
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3400# Duster 1.53 60 ft 6.95 @ 97 1/8 10.97 @ 122 1/4 2000 ft DA 365" 10.1 to 1 SRP pistons, Eagle H beams, cast Eagle crank, ARP main studs IndyBrock heads CNC ported and then some (25 cfm over Indy's CNC job) .700 lift Crower solid roller 250*/255* @ .050 108 LSA Edelbrock Super Victor match ported, 750 Holley Ultra DP 1 3/4" Hooker Super Comps, 18" collectors 587 HP 7000 RPM 510 TQ 5200 RPM
904 low first gear, 8" 4500 stall converter, foot brake, 4.30 gear, 28/10.5 Mickeys, CalTracs/monos 6cyl bars stock front
needs a 5500+ converter for sure, the intake is too big for the motor poor low speed response, going through the traps at 6700, switched to 4.56 after 4.30s broke, I think it will go 10.7ish when ironed out
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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3400# Duster 1.53 60 ft 6.95 @ 97 1/8 10.97 @ 122 1/4 2000 ft DA 365" 10.1 to 1 SRP pistons, Eagle H beams, cast Eagle crank, ARP main studs IndyBrock heads CNC ported and then some (25 cfm over Indy's CNC job) .700 lift Crower solid roller 250*/255* @ .050 108 LSA Edelbrock Super Victor match ported, 750 Holley Ultra DP 1 3/4" Hooker Super Comps, 18" collectors 587 HP 7000 RPM 510 TQ 5200 RPM
904 low first gear, 8" 4500 stall converter, foot brake, 4.30 gear, 28/10.5 Mickeys, CalTracs/monos 6cyl bars stock front
needs a 5500+ converter for sure, the intake is too big for the motor poor low speed response, going through the traps at 6700, switched to 4.56 after 4.30s broke, I think it will go 10.7ish when ironed out
thats a pretty impressive combo man Did it run 10's consistent, or mostly low 11's?
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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09/21/12 10:20 PM
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3400# Duster 1.53 60 ft 6.95 @ 97 1/8 10.97 @ 122 1/4 2000 ft DA 365" 10.1 to 1 SRP pistons, Eagle H beams, cast Eagle crank, ARP main studs IndyBrock heads CNC ported and then some (25 cfm over Indy's CNC job) .700 lift Crower solid roller 250*/255* @ .050 108 LSA Edelbrock Super Victor match ported, 750 Holley Ultra DP 1 3/4" Hooker Super Comps, 18" collectors 587 HP 7000 RPM 510 TQ 5200 RPM
904 low first gear, 8" 4500 stall converter, foot brake, 4.30 gear, 28/10.5 Mickeys, CalTracs/monos 6cyl bars stock front
needs a 5500+ converter for sure, the intake is too big for the motor poor low speed response, going through the traps at 6700, switched to 4.56 after 4.30s broke, I think it will go 10.7ish when ironed out
thats a pretty impressive combo man Did it run 10's consistent, or mostly low 11's?
Made it to the 1/4 mile track once, ran 10.97, then broke the rear end which took out the sprag in the trans too. Ran mostly 1/8 mile (7.0s) which would be 11.0s in the 1/4. If it had the proper 5500-6000 converter, and 4.56 gears it would likely have run 10.7s.
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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09/21/12 11:06 PM
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To be competitive in a 10.90 index class either you have to be capable of 10.70-10.80, or just 10.90 and make all perfect passes.
Yes, I am aware of that. My plan was to spray it till I hit 10.70's 10.80's, then try to come down on the tune and get it as close as possible to 10.90. My reaction times are spot on, it was my missing shifts that hurt my consistency...but that shouldn't be an issue with the automatic im putting in
You can't use N2O in NHRA S/ST.. FYI..
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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To be competitive in a 10.90 index class either you have to be capable of 10.70-10.80, or just 10.90 and make all perfect passes.
Yes, I am aware of that. My plan was to spray it till I hit 10.70's 10.80's, then try to come down on the tune and get it as close as possible to 10.90. My reaction times are spot on, it was my missing shifts that hurt my consistency...but that shouldn't be an issue with the automatic im putting in
You can't use N2O in NHRA S/ST.. FYI..
Chris..
Its not an NHRA class that Im going to be running in. The track follows NHRA sanctioning body rules, but the actual class is part of a series that has its own rules
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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Makes me want to build a smallblock. Also makes me think my 500" big block is kind of a pooch after reading this. ported raised port heads, solid roller cam, 1050 dominator, coan 5000 converter,3700 lb b body best of 10.57. I have a bunch of used parts put together that must not work that good together.
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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10/25/12 10:52 PM
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What you have to do is get peak power numbers out of your head. At the race weights most of us deal with- Average power is key. HP in the 500+ range "Can" get you there IF the torque curve is working for you and your chassis. Why do you suppose the 408/416 combos are so wildly popular? Its because they make a boat load of grunt and usually well below 5000 rpm.
You are on the right track with those heads and a stock stroke 360. Concentrate on torque production with most area under the curve and you will reap massive benefits. Look long and hard at your headers. J.Rob
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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What you have to do is get peak power numbers out of your head. At the race weights most of us deal with- Average power is key. HP in the 500+ range "Can" get you there IF the torque curve is working for you and your chassis. Why do you suppose the 408/416 combos are so wildly popular? Its because they make a boat load of grunt and usually well below 5000 rpm.
You are on the right track with those heads and a stock stroke 360. Concentrate on torque production with most area under the curve and you will reap massive benefits. Look long and hard at your headers. J.Rob
Hey J. Rob, thanks for the input man!
What do you mean by getting peak power numbers out of the head? Im assuming that is done via cam selection?
And my headers- that is something I have been struggling with...Can't decide if I should leave my air gap dual plane and 1-5/8 headers alone, or if I should step up to the single plane and go bigger on headers. I know the former will make more torque, but im wondering if the latter will make the same amount or more of torque but also help upper rpm
Thats why im looking to see what success others have had. Im willing to gear the car and give it the converter it needs, its just compression that is the issue because it HAS to run on pump gas and it has iron heads
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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10/25/12 11:20 PM
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Yes be careful with cam selection. It is very easy to get sucked into the bigger is better philosophy. J.Rob
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Re: 10 sec stock stroke 360 combos
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Yes be careful with cam selection. It is very easy to get sucked into the bigger is better philosophy. J.Rob
I hear ya
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