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Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304110 09/22/12 12:12 PM 09/22/12 12:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 236 Augusta, GA Lightning enthusiast
Lightning enthusiast Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 236 Augusta, GA	there's just something about Modifieds.....

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Lightning] #1304111 10/03/12 09:27 PM 10/03/12 09:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Had another test tonight,,,still having fuel pressure issues. IF, we can get the fuel pressure straightened out,, this thing is going to be a BAD MO-FO!! If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304112 10/03/12 09:54 PM 10/03/12 09:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 456 corpus christi tex C Cheatham mopar
Cheatham mopar C Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 456 corpus christi tex	thats a good looking car what chassi? is it a 4 bar? you should post some pics of the rear suspension and describe how it works lol ppl wouldnt know what you were talkn about, theres alot of engineering in these type of dirt cars, i wish i could still do it but my eyes dont work so good anymore

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: Cheatham] #1304113 10/03/12 10:04 PM 10/03/12 10:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC L Luke member
Luke member L Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 Hickory, NC	Ran 410 small blocks for years in our two imca modifieds, hemi engine were outlawed, been 4 or 5 years, interesting to see this make the transition over into dirt modifieds Good luck, God I miss the dirt Luke

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304114 10/08/12 07:52 PM 10/08/12 07:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	I regret in posting this,,but I know some of you are interested in this project. After getting the bugs out of the fuel system, the testing progressed well and it was time for some 'real' laps. The third afternoon of tests ended in disaster. #3 rod decided to go elsewhere...I am not sure just what happened yet. I will do an autopsy when I get the motor in the shop. It appears, by looking in the hole, that a rod bolt broke and let the cap come up on one side and,,,it went down hill from there. The motor had about 3 hours running time on it and was making some serious power. 40-50 hot laps and we were all excited with the performance. Last edited by CHAPPER; 10/17/12 08:29 AM. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304115 10/08/12 07:58 PM 10/08/12 07:58 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 453 Holly, MI JackGTX440 mopar
JackGTX440 mopar Joined: May 2004 Posts: 453 Holly, MI	Awe that sucks! Jack Irons Jr. '67 GTX, turbo 6.1 HEMI

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: JackGTX440] #1304116 10/08/12 11:00 PM 10/08/12 11:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 939 B birdtracker super stock
birdtracker super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 939	is the failure due to low fuel pressure issue? Birdtracker

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: birdtracker] #1304117 10/09/12 12:10 AM 10/09/12 12:10 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,240 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,240 aZLiViN	Bummer.... thanks for the updates though. Pretty...NO, VERY cool project!!

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: J_BODY] #1304118 10/16/12 09:38 AM 10/16/12 09:38 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	7423063-hemidamage005.jpg (163 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304119 10/16/12 10:31 AM 10/16/12 10:31 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Man that sucks. So any idea what happened? Rod bolt failure? improper torquing? Rod failure. Or oiing issues? Whatever it is I hope you figure it out. Matt

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: MattW] #1304120 10/16/12 12:31 PM 10/16/12 12:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx A AlexP I Live Here
AlexP I Live Here A Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 10,645 Houston, Tx	The small end of a 5.7 rod is notoriously weak. My Build thread: Let the hemi swap begin! 1968 wanna be pro touring whatchamacallit with some fancy stuff and a new roof skin.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: AlexP] #1304121 10/16/12 12:45 PM 10/16/12 12:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Damn that sucks. there are to many stories of these hemi engines tossing rods and I have one and it worries me Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: AlexP] #1304122 10/16/12 01:35 PM 10/16/12 01:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: The small end of a 5.7 rod is notoriously weak. Chevy rod.. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304123 10/16/12 01:51 PM 10/16/12 01:51 PM
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1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	way cool build,stuff that blows up suc ks bad but im sure you will figure it out

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: MattW] #1304124 10/16/12 02:30 PM 10/16/12 02:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Man that sucks. So any idea what happened? Rod bolt failure? improper torquing? Rod failure. Or oiing issues? Whatever it is I hope you figure it out. Matt At this time, I am leaning toward a broken rod bolt. One bolt is a clean break, while the other one appears to have bent/broke. Also, enter into this mess, a blackened crank, that points to oil starvation. I am speculating that one bolt broke, allowed cap to start coming off and going out of round, which caused the excessive heat/blackening, the cap came clear off, piston stayed at top of cylinder and crank pin broke beam off..what ever happened, happened fast(7000+rpm) and the damage was severe. The other rods and bearings look good. I say 'good', in as good as could be expected with all the trash floating around in the oil and crankcase. 7423401-hemidamage010.jpg (116 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304125 10/16/12 03:39 PM 10/16/12 03:39 PM
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340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	what brand rod was it? ARP 2000 bolts?

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: 340RICK] #1304126 10/16/12 05:00 PM 10/16/12 05:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Quote: what brand rod was it? ARP 2000 bolts? From what I recall talking with CHAPPER...I know that Scat SB Chevy rods were used. I don't recall what rod bolt's were used. Jerry Williams.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: hemidup] #1304127 10/16/12 07:00 PM 10/16/12 07:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Quote: what brand rod was it? ARP 2000 bolts? From what I recall talking with CHAPPER...I know that Scat SB Chevy rods were used. I don't recall what rod bolt's were used. ARP #8740 bolts were used as that is the bolt supplied with them. Probably should have upgraded, but have used them without any problems in the past. I am still at a loss, as are others apparently, just where the oiling problem is. I would have to guess right now, that it is in the crankshaft. I KNOW all oil passages in block and crank were clean and clear upon assembly. All clearances were acceptable to my standards with previous motors. The 'previous motors' do NOT include a Gen 3 Hemi though. I can't imagine the clearances being hugely different on a Hemi versus a big or small block Chevy, small block Mopar, big block Mopar, etc. The blackened crank is what really makes me wonder just what is taking place in these motors at 7000+rpm. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: CHAPPER] #1304128 10/16/12 07:09 PM 10/16/12 07:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Well Jerry? do you know what is going on here? isn't it 3,4,5 or 6 that is always exiting the block? detonation on the short intake runner cylinders? oiling? Barton has it figured out Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Gen 3 Hemi on dirt.. [Re: sixpackgut] #1304129 10/16/12 08:00 PM 10/16/12 08:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER OP master
CHAPPER OP master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Well Jerry? do you know what is going on here? isn't it 3,4,5 or 6 that is always exiting the block? detonation on the short intake runner cylinders? oiling? Barton has it figured out Yes, Jerry, please tell us.. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

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