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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: mopar65]
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09/15/12 09:06 AM
09/15/12 09:06 AM
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Tulsa OK
Bad340fish
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I built a relay panel and put it in my glovebox, on that side of the car I also ran my main power wire to a disribution point. The only factory wiring I use is for the lights and wipers, everything else comes out of that relay panel. I removed all the factory engine compartment wiring and seperated it from the light harness. This leaves one of the bulkhead connectors unused(except the horn wire). To get the remaining factory stuff lit back up I just hooked onto the wire that came out of the amp gauge and ran it to my power block. This cleaned up a ton of engine wiring, killed the bulkhead connector that always jacks up, and brought new power to the lights and wipers it all works good now.  Now, after building this thing it would have been very close to the same price to buy some of the nicer ones. All that crap adds up, the relays, the wire, the fuse block, etc etc. I like it, it works great. I switch it all off of my shifter console. But, I think if I did it again I would have bought somebodies panel and wired it to my console. FYI I bought some 10 conductor wire that had 10 different 16 gauge wires in it that were all different colors. This made one nice wire I was able to run under the carpet to my shifter console(TA shifter). I actually didn't buy it, I got 10 feet of it and the supplier didn't want to mess with such a small amount so they gave it to me. EDIT: in the picture its not done, you can see where the devices that run off of it wire in there on the right side of the picture(where the sharpie numbers are). I also built it with relays there for every switch on my TA console. I don't use a few of them but they are there if I need them to be. I also numbered the relays like the cylinders so it would be easy to remember lol. The relays are cheap and available almost everywhere in case I forget to bring spares with me. I just got done with dragweek(well one more day of racing but made the drive) and this all worked great.
Last edited by Bad340fish; 09/15/12 09:10 AM.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: Thumperdart]
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09/15/12 09:31 AM
09/15/12 09:31 AM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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I did a 80% re-wire job on the Rampage... I kept the rear light harness... the rest is new... all from scratch ... I'll see if I have any pics or I'll take a couple today of the fuse block area(this is behind the drivers seat on the back wall of the cab) EDIT I have 6 relays but they are near the item they will power... 1 at the back at the fuel pump, 1 near the blower motor for the heater, 4 up front to run head lights, fan and water pump.... if you put the relay near the item they will run you just need to run a small wire to trigger the relay then the heavier wires are short distance 
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 09/15/12 09:38 AM.
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/15/12 11:08 AM
09/15/12 11:08 AM
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Metro Detroit
OUTLAWD
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I looked at the kits a few months ago...after pricing relays, etc, I got a relay box from Leash. After switches, indicating LEDs and connectors, I ended up spending $200-300...BUT its how I wanted it, not how painless thought I should do it. And I have 8 40A relays, so there is room for growing...i.e. solenoids and heaters  I used a newer car style MEGA fuse to feed my main relay panel, and installed the denso alternator at the same time. so the factory wiring is controlling the lights/wipers and that's it. It itsn't perfect, but its a ton better than the wiring job I did when I was 16...haha
Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...
71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts
66 Belv. II - just a streetcar
88 Mustang - turbo LS beater
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: bonefish]
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09/16/12 04:28 AM
09/16/12 04:28 AM
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SOUTH JERSEY
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other than for the fuel pump relays have no place in a race car. ARC overhead switch panel is one of if not tops in popularity states on their site states: Quote:
Question: Are relays needed with the Pro Stock models?
Answer: No. The switches in the Pro Stock models are engineered for use in a race car environment. The nitrous side of 3701 models is powered off the ignition fuse. If your nitrous and ignition current draw is less than 20 amps, relays are not needed.
I question the logic of having a switch that turns on a relay located a short distance from it.
Then still have to send the same amount of current to an accessory mounted thru the same size wire as would with no relay.
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: HEMIFRED]
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09/16/12 08:41 AM
09/16/12 08:41 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
70Cuda383
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wiring isn't that bad. just take your time, and go slow. use a different color wire for everything, although anything that's simply a "12v supply" or "12v switched supply" or "ground" you could use the same color but be careful.
make a note of what colors you used for each run, so you can troubleshoot later.
I built a wire harness for this Packard. it had circuits for: front power seats, front/rear power windows, convertible top motor, fuel tank sending unit, power rear antennas, tail lights, rear dome and courtesy lights, rear cigarette lighters, and an auxiliary electric fuel pump.
took me probably 20 hours, but both ends of every wire was crimped, soldered, and heat shrunk! --VERY time consuming to do it that way!
Last edited by 70Cuda383; 09/16/12 08:43 AM.
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: HEMIFRED]
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09/16/12 09:31 AM
09/16/12 09:31 AM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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Quote:
other than for the fuel pump relays have no place in a race car. ARC overhead switch panel is one of if not tops in popularity states on their site states: Quote:
Question: Are relays needed with the Pro Stock models?
Answer: No. The switches in the Pro Stock models are engineered for use in a race car environment. The nitrous side of 3701 models is powered off the ignition fuse. If your nitrous and ignition current draw is less than 20 amps, relays are not needed.
I question the logic of having a switch that turns on a relay located a short distance from it.
Then still have to send the same amount of current to an accessory mounted thru the same size wire as would with no relay.
If it has more than 20 amps I put a relay on it.. sure
alot of switches may say they can carry 20 amps but
when you start arcing them on and off it takes a toll
on them... a couple of things in a race/street car
pull more than 20... couple of things off hand... the
fan and fuel pump... some elec water pumps... I put
a relay on the head lights but then I changed over
to a modrn type which doesnt need the relay but I
still left it on there.....
I try to keep the same wire colors as the factory used
so I can use the service manual wiring diagram and
if I change a color I write it in the manual on the
fuse diagram page... this is just the way I do it
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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09/16/12 09:45 AM
09/16/12 09:45 AM
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gregsdart
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took me probably 20 hours, but both ends of every wire was crimped, soldered, and heat shrunk! --VERY time consuming to do it that way!
I did my race car that way, zero failures since 1997.
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Re: CARE TO SHARE YOUR WIRING PHOTOS............OR,
[Re: gregsdart]
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09/16/12 10:52 AM
09/16/12 10:52 AM
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Menomonee Falls
DemonDust
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Quote:
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took me probably 20 hours, but both ends of every wire was crimped, soldered, and heat shrunk! --VERY time consuming to do it that way!
I did my race car that way, zero failures since 1997.
I'm guessing you buy the connectors without insulation on them? Then use heat shrink to seal them?
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...........I`m willing to give it a shot. 
Definately not my strong points in automtive but I bet it will be by the time I`m done....... 
