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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: mikemee1331] #1298809
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I'll admit that what I wrote was based on the comparisons of the extremes. the Rev box versus the Wells. The reason that I made note of it is because I actually have a no-name ECU in my car. I didn't think that there was that much of a difference in the spark box performance. After I posted this topic, I did a search and read the entire thread on this ECU in the "New products" forum. The glaring evidence of the wide gap in power in the mid rpm range seemed to be due to the inferior box pulling ignition timing out at that range. From my understanding, the Rev box, with its modern guts, eliminates the possibility of the reduction in ignition timing. That allows the engine to make more power. The averages in gains were NOT 50 HP, but more in the 10-25 HP range. It was the wide gap at the midrange that caught my eye.
I don't mean to sound like a gullible consumer, but the logic seems valid.

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: scatpacktom] #1298810
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I tested the rev-n-nator and picked up 16hp, the hi RPM is where this box prevails, not to mention the rev limiter. Great little unit IMHO.


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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: DaveDudek] #1298811
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Dave , what box did you compare it to ?

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1298812
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It never ceases to amaze me how people feel the need to bash others.





It never ceases to amaze me how TENDER the feelings of people have become I don't see what Dave posted as bashing you.



And it never ceases to amaze me why people ask why somebody quit posting on Moparts




Keith

I appreciate , as do others , the testing you did with this and showing real world results .

I'll ask , why are you OFFENDED and HURT because someone is questioning the results and/or the way it is written ?

I really want to know what makes you think you are being bashed ?

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: JohnRR] #1298813
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Maybe it is because he did extensive testing and feels that his skills and efforts are not being appreciated.

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: Kern Dog] #1298814
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Maybe it is because he did extensive testing and feels that his skills and efforts are not being appreciated.




He wouldn't be the first to have that happen on this site and he certainly won't be the last .

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: JohnRR] #1298815
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I have no problem with people questioning things. I did,and thats why I tested the boxes.
Its the way people go about it that gets me torqued off.
I'm over it,for now
I have seen several people that provide good information leave this board because someone always has to be a pain in the rear.
If people doubt something I do,I would just rather have them get in touch with me and ask how or why I came up with something than get on the old "no way" band wagon without ever even reading the information .
Carry on!

Keith

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: Kern Dog] #1298816
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IMO it sounds like a good unit even if just for the fact that it works properly instead of all those dud orange boxes we keep hearing about, and the built in rev limiter with no wiring butchering. I don't have a stock type ignition in my car, but if I did, I'd take a serious look at these.

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: JohnRR] #1298817
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Dave , what box did you compare it to ?




Chrome box.


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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: DaveDudek] #1298818
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Has anyone noticed any idle difference/improvement?What about part throttle response?

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: gch] #1298819
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I am running one on my 440 dually I cant tell much difference on idle quality . It does start better and response seems better. I can definitely feel the difference pulling the enclosed trailer.
I was just looking the truck over today getting ready for Monster Mopar,the plugs look cleaner than I'm used to seeing in a street vehicle.
I had to pull a couple degrees of timing
out with it to get rid of some pinging under heavy loads.
Keith

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1298820
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I am running one on my 440 dually I cant tell much difference on idle quality . It does start better and response seems better. I can definitely feel the difference pulling the enclosed trailer.
I was just looking the truck over today getting ready for Monster Mopar,the plugs look cleaner than I'm used to seeing in a street vehicle.
I had to pull a couple degrees of timing
out with it to get rid of some pinging under heavy loads.
Keith




to reply to gch, was thinking on say that but couldn't say better than this. I subscribe all these words. Like I said, REVS UP LIKE THE WIND

about pinging... I'm still in battle with this, BUT my engine is modified ( from 8.2 stock 400, to a 10.3 stroked 400, "more less quenched" ). I have tried allmost everything, being a novice in Performance and tune up world ( maybe I'm still missing something ) and IT LOOKS it could be the Spark Plug heat range ( running XR5s ).

Temporally made a test with an STP octane booster once and the pinging was gone. My engine was pinging starting at 2800-3000 RPMs or so going down in heigh from my city height, specially with load.

Pinging definitelly has nothing to do with ECU itself, since I have got same pinging with all boxes


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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: mikemee1331] #1298821
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I'm running one. Maybe the first one overseas sold ( it has the number 20 serial on it ) got it on the email subscription first offer.

I'M PLENTY HAPPY WITH IT. My engine revs like the wind like never befor, without miss a beat.

I had FBO A688 set ( coil, ECU and everything )untill his ECU failed. I mounted initially the Rev-N-Nator with the FBO coil what it was still working. Troy from RT garage told me on their test the FBO coil didn't match very well with their ECU. After a week, I can say with facts this statement is true. My car began to miss beats and get hard starting. Installed a MSD Blaster 2 coil I had around and WROOOM, everything back to the pleasure of normal again... but over the stock normal LOL

I can't talk against an MSD since I never have tried an MSD Module, but against ALL THE REST MODULES I HAVE USED ( MP Orange and Chromed, FBO and the one what Rick Eherenberg sells ) THIS IS THE BEST I HAVE USED and the "upstep" is TOTALLY NOTICEABLE.

and IN A PLUG AND PLAY JOB keeping my Mopar as Mopar on everything


Nacho, thank you very much for your input. this is VERY good and street level info. i've been waiting to hear things like this.




You're welcome. My car is a driver, so if I have to talk about street level ( spicy, to be honored to the thruth ), I can talk about. I can't be on numbers since I have not dyno'ed my car yet, and I'm novice on this to talk about what got better or worst my car. I just can say that making JUST the ECU change, REALLY got a noticeable difference.


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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: NachoRT74] #1298822
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BTW, forgot to say, my main goal on get the REV-N-Nator was the DURABILITY, more than the performance deal. Being a street car, Chromed and FBO boxes were good enough for me, but they didn't last long. I was tired of eat ECU boxes.

The one Rick Eherenberghs sells is a great box too, but after tried the Rev-N-Nator, I saved the Ricks one as a spare.


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Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: NachoRT74] #1298823
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BTW, forgot to say, my main goal on get the REV-N-Nator was the DURABILITY, more than the performance deal. Being a street car, Chromed and FBO boxes were good enough for me, but they didn't last long. I was tired of eat ECU boxes.

The one Rick Eherenberghs sells is a great box too, but after tried the Rev-N-Nator, I saved the Ricks one as a spare.


durability is also what i'm looking for and the units are just too new to have any long term field testing. i'll keep waiting and if my MSD dies i may look into one. my MSD has almost 20 years on it (coil too) so i think that is pretty hard to beat!

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: mikemee1331] #1298824
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ALl this talk of Chrome/Orange ECU's being junk.....I've never had any trouble with mine.

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ALl this talk of Chrome/Orange ECU's being junk.....I've never had any trouble with mine.


9 times out of 10 i'll bet the failures are due to mis-matched components.

Re: Rev-n-nator ignition boxes.... Anyone tried them? [Re: JoesMopar] #1298826
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my car has ate 3 chromed in a row in two years... one just last long 1 week. Have tried orange one and worked fine untill got the Rev-N-Nator ( maybe one month ), but I didn't want to take the risk to get broken on the highway.


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ALl this talk of Chrome/Orange ECU's being junk.....I've never had any trouble with mine.




X2

on 2 different cars- 12 years on a chrome box and 7 years on an orange box, no problems.

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ALl this talk of Chrome/Orange ECU's being junk.....I've never had any trouble with mine.




X2

on 2 different cars- 12 years on a chrome box and 7 years on an orange box, no problems.


this thread going on right now is a perfect example of why i beleive there are so many failures - https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD - somewhere down the road his wiring has been modified to use a 4 pin ballast.

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