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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296655
09/04/12 03:42 PM
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Glad to hear you are getting closer to getting back out there. Look forward to hearing the results of all the new changes.


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"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Al_Alguire] #1296656
09/04/12 05:32 PM
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That thing should make some good power

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296657
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Glad to see you back Brian Motor should be a really nice piece when your done

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 340RICK] #1296658
09/04/12 06:15 PM
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Looks good.....

What rpm range are you planning for this deal???

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: jim sciortino] #1296659
09/04/12 08:29 PM
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Looks good.....

What rpm range are you planning for this deal???




8000 to 8200 max Jim. New cam will make more torque than the old one.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296660
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After all of the trouble you've had, I would have put it on a Dyno! I hope it all goes well, lesser people would have thrown in the towel long ago!


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296661
09/04/12 08:51 PM
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looks like you are coming along nicely, Dad is ready to break that thing in for you! you are out of practice and you know i'll take it easy on it!

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296662
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Looks good.....

What rpm range are you planning for this deal???




8000 to 8200 max Jim. New cam will make more torque than the old one.


Are we talking peak HP at 8-8200, or cross rpm???

RPM is ET....in these smallblocks. Converter flash, gear ratio and shift recovery, get it done. With the right hardware, 8000 is not that high these days and should be easy on maintenance.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296663
09/04/12 09:26 PM
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Man I hope I don't let you down...
Looks nice




You are one of the few that haven't let me down. Superior workmanship and attention to details. Can't say enough good things about your work or ports. It won't be much longer and you will have your answers as to how well this port works on my stuff.

I just hope that I did the heads justice by making everything else "right" under them.




Brett does good work.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: jim sciortino] #1296664
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Looks good.....

What rpm range are you planning for this deal???




8000 to 8200 max Jim. New cam will make more torque than the old one.


Are we talking peak HP at 8-8200, or cross rpm???

RPM is ET....in these smallblocks. Converter flash, gear ratio and shift recovery, get it done. With the right hardware, 8000 is not that high these days and should be easy on maintenance.




I agree with all of that Jim. I will be feeling this combo out and give it what it wants. I'm loving the belt drive as I don't have anything in front of it and I can change/play with cam timing in just a few minutes. Clearances were checked within a range both directions from the installed so I know where I can safely play.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: BigDog68Dart] #1296665
09/04/12 10:09 PM
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looks like you are coming along nicely, Dad is ready to break that thing in for you! you are out of practice and you know i'll take it easy on it!




Yes Dad....alot further than you think.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296666
09/04/12 11:10 PM
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hey good luck i hope it all work out for you


In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: WHITEDART] #1296667
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A few more pictures as it went back together.....

I went with Total Seal gapless top ring/Napier second ring and low tension oil ring. Pistons were sent off to have the skirts coated with some proprietary coating that added about .0015 to the piston diameter. This was done to compensate for the .002 over the cylinders were honed to remove the grooves from the debris. I used the total seal quick seat in the cylinders and coated everything with their TS1 to seat the rings quickly. Rod bearings were all set to .0028 to .0032 per the GRP spec of .0025 to .0035

Also went with a new Charlies pan that was built to my drawing for use with the swinging pickup. It holds almost 9 quarts under the crank throw without changing my ground clearance. I did a small kick out that is slightly raised off the floor to add volume, but keep all of the available oil in the sump area. This has Charlies newest tray design (full length without a pump).






Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Thumperdart] #1296668
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Lookin good Good you caught the bearing deal. Whats the whole motor combo by chance.




Sorry I really didn't respond to this question Dom, but I will touch on the combo as I post updates of the engine re-assembly. Just my way to keep everyone tuned in.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296669
09/11/12 11:12 PM
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The last pic of the pan whats the little sleeve welded to the pan?

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The last pic of the pan whats the little sleeve welded to the pan?




There is one under the kick out on the other side to match. They are for my drip pan to mount to. The drip pan has pins on it and just slide forward to engauge and then dzus into place on the front of the pan.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296671
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good idea

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: SB412DUSTER] #1296672
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good idea




I just hate diapers and wanted a way that I could still access the bottom easily and pass tech. Plus it isn't just a drip pan....it's a belly pan.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296673
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The last pic of the pan whats the little sleeve welded to the pan?




There is one under the kick out on the other side to match. They are for my drip pan to mount to. The drip pan has pins on it and just slide forward to engauge and then dzus into place on the front of the pan.




Brian, You're smarter than the average mule and his head is twice the size of yours!

I really like that idea. I may have to modify it a little for the cuda. Beep

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Bigbeep] #1296674
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The last pic of the pan whats the little sleeve welded to the pan?




There is one under the kick out on the other side to match. They are for my drip pan to mount to. The drip pan has pins on it and just slide forward to engauge and then dzus into place on the front of the pan.




Brian, You're smarter than the average mule and his head is twice the size of yours!

I really like that idea. I may have to modify it a little for the cuda. Beep




I don't know about that John....been feeling like an average mule here lately. Good luck at Norwalk if you are going. Wish I was coming up this year.

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