Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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Thanks for all the input, but I really never got the answer I was looking for. I know I put a lot of unnecessary weight into this chassis when I built it. I was hoping to get a ball park number on what I might save by going to the minimum spec tube and doing it by the rules,IE smaller tube where it is alowed, and an all round tube cage. I know Cudabin is 250 lighter than me, with very similar components. Other cars out there for comparison ought to give me enough info to make a solid decision on weather it is worth it. If I can dump 250 pounds with the selection of the right tube and some parts, like struts, then It would be worth it to me as that would get me a solid .020 gain at this level. So anyone with comparable rides, please speak up. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/2231195-dggif.gif)
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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09/06/12 05:58 PM
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I would look at the cost going bigger on the engine vs lighter on the chassis to see which would give the best bang for the $$$. BS ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif) that's just some advice I wish I would take myself when ever I started a new project.After all the $$$ spent that is double time I finish what I plan on it being,I always end of asking myself was it worth all the $$$ and time for so little gain? And the answer is always NO,but I always made the same mistakes over & over. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rant.gif) I know better,but the racer in me has yet to learn that,and the racer always has the say. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif) Good Luck with which ever you chose,if it were myself I would end up doing both! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif) PS This is a question only,you car runs very fast now so it must be working well do you think it will handle another 100 Horse-Power and still work well?
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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09/29/12 01:45 PM
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Tig that would be great if you weighed both, as that is the same exact swap I would like to make.
Hi Well I've managed to get around to weighing both of these blocks. Not an exact science as I only used an old set of bathroom scales but here are the results. Mega block 248lb KB block 165lb So the difference on the scales we used was 83lbs. Both were weighed with caps and cross bolts fitted. The mega block was at a 4.500 bore and the KB at a 4.530 bore. The 83lb saving was probably eaten up a little by the rotating assembly (4.5 stroke crank, 7.1 rod) and the sump used on the KB has more capacity. HTH's Tig ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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09/29/12 06:31 PM
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That is a light megablock you have there. All of them I have weighed including an older ones were just under or north of 300lbs. The World blocks being the heaviest at 310ish. My KB lowdecck block was 163. Just FYI from my experiences. I hear the Indy block is even lighter, heard some crazy numbers like 125 or so.
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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09/30/12 07:24 AM
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Now that is a big difference, could be the bathroom scales are reading light, it's all I have that will weigh something that heavy. Mega block was cast around 12 years ago, does this qualify as an early casting? Used as a tool for comparison only, does the 85lb difference seem reasonable? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) As earlier, we only saved 70lb swapping from the 528 mega block to the 572 KB. Everything else on the car was the same, barring the sump.
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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09/30/12 11:25 AM
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Not to sound bad in any way, so please do not take offense, but if I was at your age I would probably ask myself how much longer I might be racing and is all the expence of trying to go two tenths faster really worth it. As mentioned above your car is fast now so unless your competing for a national tile................? A member once told me on one of my posts that I was over thinking things to much, I think he was right. JMHO so again please do not take offence.
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Re: Considering a new chassis, weight savings?
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Greg In your opening post, you said you had steel doors, surely glass doors would save a fair bit of weight and do you have lexan or glass in the car ? Mick
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