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Re: car trailer load question [Re: feets] #1287423
08/19/12 01:11 PM
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Quote:

5th wheel and goose neck hitches do not allow you to put more load on the tow vehicle through load balancing. They allow you to pull a heavier load while maintaining the 10% tongue weight rule. Do not exceed the capacity of the tow vehicle.





http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/

Look at the first column, 3.55 Powerstroke, 12500 bumper tag or 16700 5th wheel.

Why is the tag weight lower than 5th wheel? 1250 tongue weight isn't the chassis weight max on a 3/4 ton. It's where you put the weight on the chassis. And, yeah, don't overload the tow vehicle. If it doesn't matter where the weight is carried on the chassis, the rating would be the same.

Tag stuff usually has to cheat with a WD hitch above 5K total 500 tongue.

Put 1500# right at the tailgate and drive, then move it forward to very front of bed. Will the load location change the way it drive... YOU BET IT WILL!

Carry on.

Re: car trailer load question [Re: moparmikethree] #1287424
08/19/12 01:29 PM
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generally speaking, I'd say it's more like 60/40 weight wise. I believe if you get close to 50/50 on the axles the trailer becomes unstable on a tag, not talking about goose so much as it probably true there too. Any car hauler has the engine mounted forward when the car loaded which put's more weigh on the front axles.
When I haul rear engine dragsters, all the heavy stuff got put in the front of the trailer to help counter weigh the engine weight.

More proof of this was found when I shoot my tires with a infer red heat gun on my open tag trailer, my front axle tires are always hotter than the rear tires.

Re: car trailer load question [Re: Challenger 1] #1287425
08/19/12 05:40 PM
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I scale mine and shoot for 12% tongue weight because I use equalizer bars even though I tow with a 1 ton dually. Because I tow a Coronet as well as a Dart, my chocks inside the trailer are able to be fitted to both predetermined points. If you do decide to scale, don't forget to include any tools, fuel, coolers, etc that you may have in (or on) the trailer.


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Re: car trailer load question [Re: Dabee] #1287426
08/20/12 12:41 AM
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I pull a 28 ft closed trailer with my Ram dually. I load the race car with the front tires just forward of the front trailer axle. The car is 100 pound heaver in the front. That way it puts the weight of the car on the trailer axles not my truck. My trailer has cabinets in the front so all my tools and equipment are up front, plus the weight of the front of the trailer. I would estimate my hitch weight to be around 1,000 pounds. I have never had a problem with the trailer wagging around. In fact I have to keep looking in the mirror to make sure the trailer is still back there, just kidding.





Yea I've been with Russ trailering the Superbee at 85 LOL!
felt like we were going 60!!! Dam that's a nice working rig!

Re: car trailer load question [Re: Dodgem] #1287427
08/20/12 11:31 AM
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This thread seams to come up once a month or so. Again;

- a bumper pull trailer should have around 12% tongue weight. A little more is preferrable to a little less. Don't guess by how the truck looks; weight it and mark the car's position. While you're at it make sure that you have the right hitch set-up: a regular class IV is only rated for 500lbs deadweight without a weight distributing hitch but goes to 1000lbs with the WD hitch.

Dave


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