Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/22/12 10:53 AM
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I ran one for years on my 383 GTS and it performed MUCH better even with the stock exhaust manifolds. I ground off the Edelbrock and DP4B designations but left the casting number and painted it to look stock...
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: BSB67]
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07/22/12 01:42 PM
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I heard the DP4B is taller than a stock 4bbl intake - is this correct? Anyone have the heights of the various intakes being discussed above?
About 0.4"
Anyone have a height comparison including an Edelbrock Performer?
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: BSB67]
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07/22/12 04:29 PM
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The Performer is within 0.1" of the DP4B
Thanks! I have a Performer and want to switch over to a DP4B on an air grabber car.
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/22/12 07:38 PM
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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)
Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: dart1962_440]
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07/22/12 08:49 PM
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1# difference in Torque 6 HP Nothing you will feel/notice at the track , definetly not on the street especially on a mild build 383 Waste of time switching between the two intakes - Stick with the Perfomer Edelbrock Dp4b Surprise! The oldest design produced the best average power of the dual-planes-of course we're only talking 1-3 numbers better, and that can be testing variance, but still, this thing wasn't at all bad. It's the first of the Mopar aftermarket dual-planes but has not been sold in many years. The DP4B designation means Dodge-Plymouth 4-Barrel, and the C4B (Chrysler 4-Barrel) is for 440s. This intake is most like the stock design, with the smaller of the two planes on the right side and feeding cylinders 2, 3, 5, and 8. The coil bracket is not in the stock location, but even so, many people who want an OE look use this manifold. Price: Ours was $104.39 on eBay, but maybe the price will jump now. Manifold height: front 311/44, rear 411/48 Peak torque: 456 lb-ft @ 3,800 Peak horsepower: 445 hp @ 5,900 Power at 3,000 rpm: 419 lb-ft, 239 hp Power at 5,000 rpm: 431 lb-ft, 410 hp Average 2,500-4,500: 429 lb-ft, 289 hp Average 4,500-6,000: 419 lb-ft, 417 hp Average 2,500-6,000: 424 lb-ft, 344 hp Edelbrock Performer 383 The Performer is the world's most ubiquitous intake manifold; you can order one from virtually any auto-parts chain. The Performer 383 (PN 2186) is a stock replacement part that's emissions legal for many OE four-barrel applications, and it has provisions for an EGR valve. Its carb pad will accept square-bore or spread-bore carbs. The Edelbrock Performer Package recommended for this intake includes a cam with just 204/214 at 0.050, demonstrating that our 237/242 solid cam is a little too big to match the ideal operating range of this and other low-rise dual-planes in this test. Price: The satin PN 2186 intake is $189.98 at Summit Racing; a polished version, PN 21861, is $359.88 Manifold height: front 331/48, rear 411/44 Peak torque: 455 lb-ft @ 3,800 Peak horsepower: 439 hp @ 5,900 Power at 3,000 rpm: 418 lb-ft, 239 hp Power at 5,000 rpm: 426 lb-ft, 406 hp Average 2,500-4,500: 427 lb-ft, 288 hp Average 4,500-6,000: 415 lb-ft, 413 hp Average 2,500-6,000: 422 lb-ft, 341 hp Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/hrdp_...l#ixzz21OzHWOFS
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: JohnRR]
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07/23/12 08:33 AM
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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)
Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?
I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/23/12 09:39 AM
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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)
Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?
I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.
Ok I thought you were actually answering the OPs question , my bad .
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: JohnRR]
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07/23/12 11:08 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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It will fit and it WILL make more HP and you can use a holley. Plus most folks won't even know it's an aftermarket intake. I'd expect to pay 75-125 depending on the condition. I sold a 318 LD4B on e-bay for $225! I ran the CH4B on a very mild 440 w/ a 4 hole 1/2" spacer and a 750 holley, car ran 12.90's (3800lb coronet)
Jeff what intake are you talking about here ?
I like the all of them. They are a good intake for a mild build. The one I sold for $225 was a 318 LD intake.
Ok I thought you were actually answering the OPs question , my bad .
John ,just commenting on some incorrect information. So to his question... No they are not hard to find and I think I answered the cost question... $75-125 depending on shape.
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: SuperRob]
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09/21/12 12:47 PM
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I have a question for those who have added a DP4B to an N96 car.
Did you swap aircleaners? I've read when adding the intake to a 383 you must use the 340/440 baseplate to gain the needed clearance.
My car is a 71' and not a factory Air Grabber car, I am adding it and already have a DP4B but no AG parts.
I'm hoping to figure out exactly what I need before I singe the credit card a bit ordering all the hood parts.
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: JohnRR]
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09/21/12 04:21 PM
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Since the Holley SD was brought up, I'll comment that my personal experience with it on a magnum spec 383 in a heavy car was very poor. I used it cuz the a/c brackets fit it, but I lost a lot of tq. No empirical test, but same car, same engine, same carb, same tires, same stretch of road: with stock intake and 3.23 gears it would light them up from an idle. With the SD and 3.91's it would only squawk them from an idle.
The artical linked shows it's down on tq at 3000rpm, from my own testing from idle it's waaaaay down. perf rpm and efi gave a better response than either above.
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Re: Edelbrock Dp4b intake-how rare are these and where can
[Re: JohnRR]
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09/25/12 09:13 AM
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I put a DP4B on my 69 Superbee with N96 using the 383 air cleaner , fit fine , the intake isn't a whole lot taller.
Same here on a 70 Bee.
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