Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
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08/11/12 08:47 PM
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I did something very similar to this once.
I had a reasonably hot, for the time, bracket engine in a dedicated bracket car with the soft front end, 90/10 shock, SS leafs, slicks, lightweight wheels, the whole shebang for bracket racing. This car would run lows twelves @ 105mph.
I transplanted this engine in to a street car that was built to be a handling chassis. It had the requisite subframe conenctors and bracing, bigger t-bars, huge sway bars, gas charged high pressure shocks, XHD leafs and was low to the ground with fat tires all around. It also did drag strip duty and in this set up I was giving up a full second in absolute e.t. and was running 13.2, also at 105mph. At the strip I did swap on the drag slicks and the rear gearing between the two was the same. So while the e.t. was not hugely impacted, something I did notice was that the handling set up was considerably more consistent and my e.t.s tended to not be as variable as the dedicated bracket car was. It also was less sensitive to atmospheric changes and over all was a lot more fun car to bracket race than the dedicated drag car.
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
[Re: TC@HP2]
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08/15/12 11:03 PM
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Quote:
I did something very similar to this once.
I had a reasonably hot, for the time, bracket engine in a dedicated bracket car with the soft front end, 90/10 shock, SS leafs, slicks, lightweight wheels, the whole shebang for bracket racing. This car would run lows twelves @ 105mph.
I transplanted this engine in to a street car that was built to be a handling chassis. It had the requisite subframe conenctors and bracing, bigger t-bars, huge sway bars, gas charged high pressure shocks, XHD leafs and was low to the ground with fat tires all around. It also did drag strip duty and in this set up I was giving up a full second in absolute e.t. and was running 13.2, also at 105mph. At the strip I did swap on the drag slicks and the rear gearing between the two was the same. So while the e.t. was not hugely impacted, something I did notice was that the handling set up was considerably more consistent and my e.t.s tended to not be as variable as the dedicated bracket car was. It also was less sensitive to atmospheric changes and over all was a lot more fun car to bracket race than the dedicated drag car.
thanks ive always wondered about that!what was the lbs of the two cars?i think the thinking comes from superimposing how horrible a drag car handles with how a handling car drag races-thats why a lot of peaple think you loose alot at the strip.hten again imagine an 8 second car with a handling suspension swapped in
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
[Re: blue_stocker]
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05/25/13 11:23 PM
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Well, the conversion project moves along. Installing new poly bushings, new 1.03" T-bars, new ball joints and the new Hellwig 1-1/4" front sway bar today, sheesh what a Behemoth; that sucker dwarfs these 7/8" struts! This bodacious-body car should handle pretty good when completed and that should be mid-June from all indications. This should be interesting with Viper front disc brakes, and the rest of the chassis mods, I'm glad I live in a canyon so the reality of 'canyon carver' will be a whole new meaning for me; old drag racer gone mad and corner-slicing...should be fun!
NOTE: If any of you are considering using this combination of 1-1/4" sway bar and installing the skid pan (E-body and '71-74 B-body cars) that's offered by Mancini, you MUST install the sway bar first as IF you weld the pan on, you will NOT be able to install the bar as it will bind up on the edge of the pan...ask me how I know?!! I ground through the welds, installed the bar and had to reweld after the sway bar was NOW installed...hmm?!! Just a heads-up...wb
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
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05/26/13 12:05 AM
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Me and my Dart are both ex-bracket racers, my car is so much more fun to drive now it isnt funny. 6 gears opens a whole new experience.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
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09/09/15 09:53 PM
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After all this time, she's just about done. Still have some stickers and lettering to remove and the exhaust pipes, but here she is, street trim. Hmm, should be fun, or so I hope?! For sale very soon...
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson
Freedom must be repurchased by every new generation General Daniel Jones, WW2 Tuskegee Airmen
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
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09/10/15 12:41 AM
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Re: converting...well, for this one anyway!
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04/08/19 12:33 AM
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Wow, it's been a while! I've been busy on other projects, helping another guy build his RR clone, engine, chassis and wiring, took me a bit of time, more than expected. I lost traction again, settled into a mess of junk but finally got motivated enough to get my head extracted and got the car running. New chassis, de-tuned the faithful old 440, slipped a 4 spd back in, changed wheel and tire combination (again), etc etc...Here's how she looks now...sits real low.
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. Thomas Jefferson
Freedom must be repurchased by every new generation General Daniel Jones, WW2 Tuskegee Airmen
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