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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: Challenger 1] #1270234
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I just know the fuel pump can't suck through a filter made for after the fuel pump, it don't matter what year, gas is gas.

Very few people understand gas and it characteristics. Got to know it to make big power.





I've ran it both ways and my motor still makes "big power" either way. There has to be a reason the book shows it before the pump.


73 Challenger 340(416),E-heads, 727, 3.23 SG
2015 Challenger R/T classic B5, wife's car
2010 Ram 3500 Crew Cab SLT dually 4X4
2016 Challenger Hellcat Redline Red A8
Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: bennydodge] #1270235
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So the service manual is wrong then?




You think this wouldn't be possible ?

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: bennydodge] #1270236
07/20/12 12:57 PM
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I just know the fuel pump can't suck through a filter made for after the fuel pump, it don't matter what year, gas is gas.

Very few people understand gas and it characteristics. Got to know it to make big power.





I've ran it both ways and my motor still makes "big power" either way. There has to be a reason the book shows it before the pump.




How long were you able to keep your foot into it and how hot was it? Driving around town does not put the fuel delivery to the test, holding it wide open for miles at a time does.
Don't run the filter in front of the pump, it will be wrong and will hurt performance when it's hot out. Just trying to help you, the sock in the tank is the only filter before the fuel pump, I'm positive.
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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: JohnRR] #1270237
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So the service manual is wrong then?




You think this wouldn't be possible ?




Noooooo..they would never be wrong . Just lookin for answers..


73 Challenger 340(416),E-heads, 727, 3.23 SG
2015 Challenger R/T classic B5, wife's car
2010 Ram 3500 Crew Cab SLT dually 4X4
2016 Challenger Hellcat Redline Red A8
Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: Challenger 1] #1270238
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I just know the fuel pump can't suck through a filter made for after the fuel pump, it don't matter what year, gas is gas.

Very few people understand gas and it characteristics. Got to know it to make big power.





I've ran it both ways and my motor still makes "big power" either way. There has to be a reason the book shows it before the pump.




How long were you able to keep your foot into it and how hot was it? Driving around town does not put the fuel delivery to the test, holding it wide open for miles at a time does.
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Well I didn't do a whole mile, LOL but wide open through all three gears, 95 degree heat and it didn't falter, pulled real hard.


73 Challenger 340(416),E-heads, 727, 3.23 SG
2015 Challenger R/T classic B5, wife's car
2010 Ram 3500 Crew Cab SLT dually 4X4
2016 Challenger Hellcat Redline Red A8
Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: CompSyn] #1270239
07/20/12 01:03 PM
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Doubt it, those keystone clamps will flex enough to switch a "barbed" nipple, probably the top one leaked or broke, and why wouldn't there be paint on the filter if there is paint an inch away in all directions?


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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: VL21] #1270240
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There's also traces of paint on the pump, it clearly was painted.


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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: HemiRick] #1270241
07/21/12 01:56 PM
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I agree, it's been painted (as in later on, after the factory painted the engine). It does appear to be an original filter but as mentioned those clamps are not too difficult to remove and reuse.

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1270242
07/21/12 10:52 PM
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I'm going to try and carefully clean the grime off the filter to see what markings might be on it. Also, there are parts of the engine that have been repainted, the timing cover one of them.

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: CompSyn] #1270243
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Okay, with some limited time this evening I cleaned up the filter some but haven't been able to positively identify the markings I saw. What I did see are some very faint remnants of some stenciling that seems consistent with the pic below of the restoration filter. I'll see if my camera will capture it when I have time later on. Also, that is red paint on the hose and not consistent with the orange paint on the fuel pump. And, both hoses have KV marks on them.


Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: CompSyn] #1270244
07/23/12 08:11 PM
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OK,does anyone have a sorce for these filters.I dont really need a exact replica,but I thought I read recently that the metal ones are getting hard to find???

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: 70RR383] #1270245
07/23/12 09:22 PM
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I could be persuaded to let go of my NOS one with the "made in Israel" stamp.


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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: 70RR383] #1270246
07/24/12 12:27 AM
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OK,does anyone have a sorce for these filters.I dont really need a exact replica,but I thought I read recently that the metal ones are getting hard to find???




Don't know about that. The WIX #33032 is available at RockAuto for $2.78 - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=359874

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: 70RR383] #1270247
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OK,does anyone have a sorce for these filters.I dont really need a exact replica,but I thought I read recently that the metal ones are getting hard to find???



Someone posted NAPA 3032 and I went there to buy 3 for $4 a piece. I think its a good deal. I believe they are made in USA. It was hard when I was going around to the big box auto stores.

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: CompSyn] #1270248
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So far this is only remaining stenciling I can identify on the filter. Interesting, it appears the stock filter used capital lettering unlike the resto unit...


Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: CompSyn] #1270249
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Here's another pic with filter stenciling, keystone clamp and KV hose...

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: gtx6970] #1270250
07/26/12 10:49 PM
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440 and hemi used the lower hard lines.

383 cars use as shown, note the angle the lower fitting exits the pump




Any idea on small blocks what should be used ? Specifically 65 B with a 318 poly?

Just spent 2 hours bending a lower hardline (space is very tight) in 94* heat. I just assumed all were hardline from the factory - all I ever worked on before is RB and Hemi's

Was all pleased with myself how it turned out.. now I feel pretty stupid

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: bennydodge] #1270251
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I just know the fuel pump can't suck through a filter made for after the fuel pump, it don't matter what year, gas is gas.

Very few people understand gas and it characteristics. Got to know it to make big power.





I've ran it both ways and my motor still makes "big power" either way. There has to be a reason the book shows it before the pump.




My 72 FSM has a whole section on the 6bbl induction system. The FSM isn't always right.


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Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: Supercuda] #1270252
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I just know the fuel pump can't suck through a filter made for after the fuel pump, it don't matter what year, gas is gas.

Very few people understand gas and it characteristics. Got to know it to make big power.





I've ran it both ways and my motor still makes "big power" either way. There has to be a reason the book shows it before the pump.




My 72 FSM has a whole section on the 6bbl induction system. The FSM isn't always right.




Why not there are 72 6 pack cars

Re: Is this a factory original fuel filter? [Re: Moparlar] #1270253
07/27/12 10:29 AM
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Original 71 340 filter and clamps

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