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converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion #1266803 07/13/12 08:04 AM 07/13/12 08:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 710 Harrisburg Pa. 17112 M moparmikethree OP super stock
moparmikethree OP super stock M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 710 Harrisburg Pa. 17112	Has anyone every changed the 70 Challenger from a gear box to a rack and pinnion? Is there a kit, how much? or can you piece one together from after market parts. Did you like the outcome?

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: moparmikethree] #1266804 07/13/12 10:03 AM 07/13/12 10:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	bolt it in and be done with it. http://www.reillymotorsports.com/

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266805 07/13/12 10:57 AM 07/13/12 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois Devil I Live Here
Devil I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois	There are no good kits out there right now to convert a 70 Challenger to R&P. The one mentioned above is for drag racing. But you can do some work to you stock setup and make it work awesome. Check out the Hotchkis setup for some ideas.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266806 07/13/12 11:17 AM 07/13/12 11:17 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 710 Harrisburg Pa. 17112 M moparmikethree OP super stock
moparmikethree OP super stock M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 710 Harrisburg Pa. 17112	like what, give some details. tired of the play in these gear boxes

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266807 07/13/12 11:47 AM 07/13/12 11:47 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Quote: The one mentioned above is for drag racing. I guess these E body owners didnt get the memo.... \Matt Delaney's Cuda on the power tour...

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: DJVCuda] #1266808 07/13/12 11:52 AM 07/13/12 11:52 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	QUICK!!! Someone tell Jon Clark ( formerly of Mopar Performance ) that he CANNOT run his 68 Plymouth in an Autocross event with the RMS AlterK!!! Wait!!! He did...must have missed the memo as well... Too late! He already did.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266809 07/13/12 12:04 PM 07/13/12 12:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Quote: The one mentioned above is for drag racing. . Better tell someone soon before all these wheels start falling off !!!

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266810 07/13/12 12:09 PM 07/13/12 12:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Quote: The one mentioned above is for drag racing. But you can do some work to you stock setup and make it work awesome. Dont Click on this video link if you want to see the autocross video THis guy didnt get the memo either...

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266811 07/13/12 12:14 PM 07/13/12 12:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: There are no good kits out there right now to convert a 70 Challenger to R&P. The one mentioned above is for drag racing. But you can do some work to you stock setup and make it work awesome. Check out the Hotchkis setup for some ideas. may want to get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an fool. the RMS set up was built and designed to go around corners. the weight savings for drag racing is just an added bonus. not sure where your getting your info but its totally wrong. i guess next thing your gonna tell us is that F,M,J body spindles are no geed because of their height. oh thats right, that myth has been proven wrong also with numbers and facts to back them up.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266812 07/13/12 12:23 PM 07/13/12 12:23 PM
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cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	Quote: Matt Delaney's Cuda on the power tour... don't forget the totally auto white barracuda (the one that got stolen) that did the power tour also. talk to dave and he will rave about that suspension. i talked to him personally a few years ago at carlisle standing right next to his car. he couldn't believe how well the RMS system worked. lets not forget about the group of chrysler engineers that took a RMS equipped blue duster overseas to road race too. some crazy roads over there...

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266813 07/13/12 12:54 PM 07/13/12 12:54 PM
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savoy64 top fuel S Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado	back to your question----the stock K member will not allow the use of a rack and pinion set up without drastic removal of metal----but if you have the money the above setups look good---if you are handy you can make your own---i did----bob

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266814 07/13/12 12:57 PM 07/13/12 12:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,080 Berlin, N.J. A abodyjoe I Live Here
abodyjoe I Live Here A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,080 Berlin, N.J.	i have the alter-k on my street car (dart in my sig). its been flawless and these jersey streets suck. i have close to 10,000 miles on it. wouldn't think twice about putting the system under a daily driver. not sure where the "its for drag racing" thing came from but thats not accurate at all. It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. www.MoparMisfits.com

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266815 07/13/12 01:48 PM 07/13/12 01:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,066 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,066 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: There are no good kits out there right now to convert a 70 Challenger to R&P. The one mentioned above is for drag racing. But you can do some work to you stock setup and make it work awesome. Check out the Hotchkis setup for some ideas. may want to get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an fool AGAIN the RMS set up was built and designed to go around corners. the weight savings for drag racing is just an added bonus. not sure where your getting your info but its totally wrong. i guess next thing your gonna tell us is that F,M,J body spindles are no geed because of their height. oh thats right, that myth has been proven wrong also with numbers and facts to back them up. fixed Devil how about enlightening us with your mechanical engineering background .

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: JohnRR] #1266816 07/13/12 03:17 PM 07/13/12 03:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois Devil I Live Here
Devil I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,501 Chicago, Illinois	Quote: Quote: Quote: There are no good kits out there right now to convert a 70 Challenger to R&P. The one mentioned above is for drag racing. But you can do some work to you stock setup and make it work awesome. Check out the Hotchkis setup for some ideas. may want to get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an fool AGAIN the RMS set up was built and designed to go around corners. the weight savings for drag racing is just an added bonus. not sure where your getting your info but its totally wrong. i guess next thing your gonna tell us is that F,M,J body spindles are no geed because of their height. oh thats right, that myth has been proven wrong also with numbers and facts to back them up. fixed Devil how about enlightening us with your mechanical engineering background . I do have a minor in Mechanical Engineering, does that count or matter? Here is quality information on the AlterK setup. I wouldn't touch one with a 10 ft pole on anything but a drag racer. Even says so right in the instruction sheet for the RMS setup. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1 Enjoy, I'm out! Ryan Last edited by Devil; 07/13/12 03:19 PM.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266817 07/13/12 04:55 PM 07/13/12 04:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left. C cogen80 master
cogen80 master C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,337 the house on the left.	lol.. what a joke.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: cogen80] #1266818 07/13/12 05:16 PM 07/13/12 05:16 PM
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Silver6Pak member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 34 Alabama USA	I have an extra complete front end dropped from a 1971 big block Challenger. K member, control arms, spindles, discs, torsion bars,sway bar, tie rods, etc etc Complete, ready to bolt in. Why? Because the dude I bought it off of converted his to R&P and drives it daily. Last edited by Silver6Pak; 07/13/12 05:17 PM.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: Devil] #1266819 07/13/12 06:31 PM 07/13/12 06:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: I do have a minor in Mechanical Engineering, does that count or matter? Maybe, whats your major in? PS, your thoughts would be much safer over in the drag race forum. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: jcc] #1266820 07/13/12 07:51 PM 07/13/12 07:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I don't believe there is any good way to mount on the stock K. Simple bolt on efforts result in crazy bump steer. If you choose not to go the Alter K route, a Firm Feel box, gusseted K and suspension re-build with good parts will tighten things up consideraby. Big improvement.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: moparmikethree] #1266821 07/13/12 08:30 PM 07/13/12 08:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	There are a bunch of different kits that can be used to put a rack into an E-body car. Most of the the kits are designed for drag racing, but there are a couple that are aimed more towards the GT crowd. They are all fairly expensive ($3000 or so). You didn't say what you were trying to accomplish so it is hard to help much. If you just want to make the steering a little better then get your box rebuilt by the guys at Firm Feel. There is a ton of stuff that can be done to tighten up the stock steering system. 11/16 tie rod ends, bracing the K-frame around the steering box, etc. I covered this topic in my B-body book so maybe start there. There is also information in the old Mopar Chassis book as well as various out of print Mopar suspension books.

Re: converting 70 Challenger to a rack and pinnion [Re: AndyF] #1266822 07/13/12 08:58 PM 07/13/12 08:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Thanks Andy for your input and DJVCuda for all the pictures. I have question about the above setup, how heavy is it compared to stock? It looks heavy and would be more geared to auto cross racing more so than drag racing? To the OP I'd recomend FF upper control arms along with one of there boxes and I sure you would be happy. The postive caster that you get with the upper control arms is great, I mean huge.

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